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bernster
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:14 pm    Post subject: Correct labelling of camera sites Reply with quote

I have just downloaded the single file (Excel CSV version) database. I checked one to see if I could find it on a map. This was: GATSO:3014 with lat 50.757770 and long 1.927170, labelled as Broadstone, UK. When I searched this on a map, I found it but it wasn't in Broadstone. Broadstone is in Poole whilst this camera is in Bournemouth in a place called Wallisdown. How reliable are these titles?

Also one has to be careful not to click on one of the column headings in the Excel files (thus re-arranging the data) as, when this is imported, it can be completely wrong!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will let the camera database guys defend their own but..

Which file did you download? I just DL'd the single CSV file (for 'Other' system type) and a quick scan didn't reveal any position information other than Lat Long - as I would expect. There may be a file in the camera database for some specific nav system with additional comments - I stand to be educated here Smile

Anyway... although you could use the CSV file for your own purposes - they are intended to be downloaded into a nav system and the methods for doing this don't usually require you to open the file.

Some systems (e.g. GARMIN nuvi) will show the camera 'name' (in your case GATSO:3014@40) when you approach it - other systems don't.

As for Excel - by default clicking on columns shouldn't do anything to the order of the data - you have to select the column then do a sort. At least with Excel 2003 it doesn't do this - in fact if you attempt to sort a single column you get a pop-up warning you that you are about to do something pretty silly.

What application are you using to open the files?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also one has to be careful not to click on one of the column headings in the Excel files (thus re-arranging the data) as, when this is imported, it can be completely wrong!


If you just click the top the top of a colum it will resort ALL the colums so the data will still be correct but in a different order. You'd have to perfoirm a specific set of clicks to mess the data up.

Also if you do reorder the data when you close the file just don't save the changes.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We don't have any such location data in our database, where did you get that from?
Ours have Lat, Lon, CAMERA ID & Speed nothing else.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curiouser and curiouser....
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How reliable are these titles?
It depends on whose database it is and where you got it from.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bored, so I thought I'd have a look at the Excel version of the download.
There isn't a "single file" version, only a "consolidated-by-type" when you select Excel... Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serves you all right for using Excel instead of Lotus 1-2-3. Stop it! Joker
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:18 am    Post subject: Apologies Reply with quote

Gentlemen,
My apologies for giving you false information. As Darren pointed out the raw data, downloaded from this website, only has lat., long. and a camera name.

When I imported this into CoPilot 4, the desktop software created another table which added a location lable. It is this lable that produces the erroneous location names. Of course it is of no consequence, since this name is redundant.

I thank you all for the time taken to reespond to my query.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the update, you had a few of us scratching our heads and downloading CSVs to check back there!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
Thanks for the update, you had a few of us scratching our heads and downloading CSVs to check back there!
Only the "few of us" who use Excel Stop it! - NOT the ones who use Lotus 1-2-3 Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Out Loud, I bet you still have a 3.5" disc drive too ;)
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
Laughing Out Loud, I bet you still have a 3.5" disc drive too ;)
My latest machine is the very first without (but I've still got a zillion 3.5" floppies). 'Course, I used to have twin 360Kb 5.25" drives. I was also (don't tell anybody) the one who managed to get Lotus 1-2-3 release 2.01 onto a 3.5" 720Kb floppy for use in a single drive 512Kb RAM laptop (but I did rather spoil it by setting up the Autoexec to have a VDisk so big (!) that it didn't have enough RAM left to re-write the Autoexec to get it to work again).
The first computer I ever met (ICL 4120?) was 8Kb RAM, multiple tape drives, had an air lock to visit it and took up enough space to hold a PGPSW Expo. Our IT dept set up my purchasing stuff with a program which required 16Kb RAM and went live a week before the extra 8Kb arrived. Sad, really. Laughing
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