Mio 510 / 710

Sallyann · Lifetime Member Joined: Jun 23, 2006 Posts: 768

I'm trying to get the camera database working on my Mio 710, and have had some success.
What I have done is to write a program that reads the ASC files and converts them into the Mio file format.
So far I'm able to replace the built-in camera file with an imported one, showing the correct locations. At the moment all types of camera are shown the same, and no camera directions or speed limits are shown. I need to understand more about the Mio files, and I'm still working on it.
What I need to know is:
- Am I wasting my time - is anyone else ahead of me on this?
- Assuming I can get the program working properly, what's the best way of allowing other people to use it? Naturally I can't distribute copies of the data file, and I don't want to host the conversion program.

I have limited time to spend on this so it will be a while before anything is available. Any advice please?

Sal

CeeJay · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:50 pm Post subject:

Hi Sallyann.
I don't think you're wasting your time. I for one would certainly use a utiility like this.
I'm finding the Mio database woefully out of date.
I have found 4 cameras that are not on it, (all older than 2 years), all within 4 miles of my house and one they said was there and has been removed.
Never had this problem with PGPS database.
Obviously my main concern would be when driving in an unfamiliar area, you need the data to be accurate and IMO PGPS does a pretty good job.
Sorry I'm not computer savvy enough to help with any of the other stuff.
Keep up the good work. Thumbs Up

CeeJay.

phulatt · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jul 15, 2006 Posts: 13

Hi Sallyann

I would use this aswell.

If needed, I could host the app for you once finished. I am also a developer, if you would like some help send me a PM.

Paul

Sallyann · Lifetime Member Joined: Jun 23, 2006 Posts: 768

Simebaby · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 53

Hi Sallyann

Another who'd be very interested in this - I too work in software development, so if you need any help I'd certainly try my best.

Out of interest, how did you get the camera database off the Mio - via Bluetooth? (Doesn't work for me ATM, I'm only running v1.1 on the PC - need to upgrade to v2). Have you unlocked the Mio as per the instructions on gpspassion?

Thanks & good luck!

Si.

Simebaby · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 53

Forgot to say - I have the C510, not the C710 - don't know if this makes any difference re: file transfers (the 510 does not show as a removable drive / mass storage device).

Sallyann · Lifetime Member Joined: Jun 23, 2006 Posts: 768

Initially I had trouble getting bluetooth to work, and was advised to get a bluetooth 2.0 dongle with Bluesoleil software which does the trick. It's not necessary to unlock the device to get at the cameras file, but I have done so because then you can run a file manager on the device itself which makes it much easier to play with its files.
As I understand it the 510 and 710 are very similar at the mapping level.
I have written a utility to list out all the cameras in the POI file, which is useful in seeing how up to date (or otherwise) it is. The next step is to create a replacement file with the PGPS data, and I have this working in a very limited way. There are of course copyright issues with both sets of data, and I have no intention of misusing it.

Sal

Simebaby · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jun 14, 2006 Posts: 53

Hi Sal

Just reading your other posts, I noticed you got your BT dongle from Maplins - do you know the brand name? I popped in Maplins on my way home from work yesterday, and they only had 1 v2 dongle in store (can't remember the brand name myself!), which came with a driver CD but didn't mention BlueSoleil.

Thanks

Si.

Sallyann · Lifetime Member Joined: Jun 23, 2006 Posts: 768

Maplin stock number A71FF

Sal

Sallyann · Lifetime Member Joined: Jun 23, 2006 Posts: 768

phulatt, Simebaby

you have PM's

Sal

ravi · Regular Visitor Joined: Aug 24, 2004 Posts: 119

me want camera database too.
me want heap big poi list too.

ravi

Sallyann · Lifetime Member Joined: Jun 23, 2006 Posts: 768

I've been continuing with the project to see if the PGPSW camera database can be used in place of the one supplied with the Mio.
It might be of interest to note that there are 5601 cameras which appear at exactly the same location in both lists. There are 4226 that appear in PGPSW but not in Mio, and 4249 that are in Mio but not in PGPSW. A few of these differences are due to the same camera being shown in a slightly different location, but in the great majority of cases the camera doesn't appear at all in the other list.
Having used the Mio 'sync' facility a number of times it appears that when you use this, your own personally added camera records are sent to Mio, which if correct means that they have built-in a nice way of collecting their information for free.
Another point I'd like to ask them is what happens after the 12-month free update period if we can't use another database.
I would like to discuss these and other points with Mio, but since they don't answer my emails and their 'support' line is premium-rate, that doesn't seem possible.

Sal

paulr99 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jun 30, 2006 Posts: 2

Hi Sallyann

I'd definitely be interested in the results (when I get my "toy"!) which should be early next month.

I'm not too worried about synching with Mio sending any cams I add, because no doubt I'll get other people's additions too.

Once I start, I'll probably buy the PGPSW one on a one-off, then after the year with Mio subscribe to keep things updated - we'll probably have it sussed well before then!!

Paul

DeeJay01 · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: Re: Mio 510 / 710

rronaldson · Regular Visitor Joined: Jul 25, 2006 Posts: 102

Having just bought a C510e I'd be interested in a better camera database as well. A question about BT as this was mentioned; I have a BT-USB adaptor which I haven't got installed on my PC. If I can get it working would this enable me to see the files on my Mio?

Reg

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