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paulmk Occasional Visitor

Joined: 18/08/2003 13:08:57 Posts: 33 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 10:58 pm Post subject: Which to buy Fugawi or Memory Map |
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Hi
I am looking for some feedback as to which of the above is favoured. I have downloaded a trial version of Memory Map which i like but think it is expensive (even more so with the new version). What is the Fugawi system like to use???
I will be principally using the system for hillwalking in Scotland and the Lake District.
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Revvin_Kevin Occasional Visitor

Joined: Oct 12, 2003 Posts: 27 Location: Bradford, W. Yorks
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Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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I have pretty much the same question. Having got the in car SatNav pretty much sorted, I want to get some OS maps when the pennies allow (you listening Santa!?) for off road navigation.
However, I also want to get some maps of East Africa. Real maps are hard enough to find, so I'm guessing digital ones will be near impossible. If anyone has any ideas I'd be grateful. |
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santa Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 7:43 am Post subject: |
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Ho Ho Ho,
It all depends if you have been naughty or nice!  |
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RoyC Regular Visitor

Joined: 14/02/2003 12:00:10 Posts: 161 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:53 am Post subject: |
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I haven't used MM but I am attracted by the access to the 25000 range of OS maps.
Fugawi is OK but , in my view, the software is pretty limited. On the other hand I don't know if the features which I would like are available on MM.
My advice, purely on cost grounds would be to buy Fugawi. At £50 for 25% of UK it is a cheaper way to experiment - you may even find that you prefer it.
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Revvin_Kevin Occasional Visitor

Joined: Oct 12, 2003 Posts: 27 Location: Bradford, W. Yorks
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:45 am Post subject: |
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santa wrote: | Ho Ho Ho,
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I bin a real good boy, 'onest Santa  |
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MikeB Frequent Visitor

Joined: 20/08/2002 11:51:57 Posts: 3859 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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I think the answer is that it really depends what you want to do with it. If you buy Fugawi UK then you cannot use it to calibrate your own maps (OS license restriction) Same is true with MM2004.
If you just want to use UK mapping then MM or Fugawi are fine. Both have similar functionality. Fugawi has better organisational facilities, but MM has possibly better (or at least easier) functionality.
If you want to use it abroad then I would try getting MM2003 which has calibration facilities, and then seeing what an upgrade would cost. If you specifically want 1:25,000 maps then MM is your only option at the moment. _________________ Mike Barrett |
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Will Occasional Visitor

Joined: Nov 09, 2003 Posts: 44
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Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 2:03 am Post subject: |
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Is there a guide to calibration for these topographical programs? Is it a laborious process? Reason I ask is I'm off to Australia and Hong Kong shortly on a long trip/photo-shoot (5 week photo-shoot!), and was wondering whether I'll need to get all my maps calibrated before I leave, or whether I can do it from my laptop in hotel-rooms etc
Is it something that takes an age to do?
Forgive my newbieness
Will
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MikeB Frequent Visitor

Joined: 20/08/2002 11:51:57 Posts: 3859 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Hi Will,
There isnt really a guide to calibrating maps. The Fugawi method is the easiest, and the MM one is the most difficult, with OziExplorer in the middle.
You can do this anywhere providing you have a link to the PDA to get the calibrated data over. I have achieved this in a caravan on the slopes of the Eiger.
If you want to calibrate map images basically you need 3 bits of information:
1. Map Projection
2. Map Datum
3. At least 3 points on the map.
The Datum/Projection should be on the collar of the map, the 3 points can normally be created at grid crosspoints.
That is the easy bit. The difficult bit is actually working out what is what. I recently calibrated a map of the swiss alps (and got it right first time) but had a lot of difficulty determining the co-ordinate system. I also did one of Italy around Lake Guarda, and that was terrible.
Bear in mind that if you want calibration capabilities you have to buy an international version of Fugawi or MM. _________________ Mike Barrett |
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ed_m Occasional Visitor

Joined: Jan 01, 2004 Posts: 11
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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mind if i resurrect this thread? as its basically the same question...
i now have a nice new etrex and am looking at these two map/software packages
functionally they seem pretty identical... i'm erring on the side of fugawi cos the midlands map area kills two birds with one stone... covering where i live & north wales.
i'll be useing base etrex.. for walking & running... might take the trouble to use my palm if the software supports it but its not a priority for me.
any comments?
anything else to consider?
any differences i haven't picked up on?
thanks in advance
ed |
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MikeB Frequent Visitor

Joined: 20/08/2002 11:51:57 Posts: 3859 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Ed,
If you are looking to use it on a palm then you would only have a single option: Fugawi. Memory-Map is not supported on the palm only PPC.
If you are using the Etrex as you primary GPS device then you might find the organisational features of Fugawi more useful than MM as it gives you an Explorer style interface. _________________ Mike Barrett |
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ed_m Occasional Visitor

Joined: Jan 01, 2004 Posts: 11
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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now thats what i call service... cheers
the real time link option with laptop or pda hadn't occured to me until i started reading the software specs... and being a gadget freak kind of
appealed. the laptop option would only be practical for in the car and wouldnt get used much... and the palm would only add a small amount over the standalone unit i guess.
plus fugawi has a cool name (what is with that anyway?!) |
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MikeB Frequent Visitor

Joined: 20/08/2002 11:51:57 Posts: 3859 Location: Essex, UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Ed,
You would be surprised what difference actually having a map on your PDA/PC can make. I suspect that once you have done it once you will wonder how you managed to survive withoutit.
I have often used handheld GPS devices, but came from a PDA background. As a keen outdoors person I think that these applications are unbeatable. Sure, I have my wishlist of enhancements, but it sure beats trying to work out exactly where you are on the map. _________________ Mike Barrett |
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ed_m Occasional Visitor

Joined: Jan 01, 2004 Posts: 11
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Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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guess i'll be needing a new pda then
other features i've seen but dont seem to have picked up from the fugawi info:
waypoint & tracklog upload, map overlay & analysis (distance & speed splits)
route card.. if not using the gps.. ie distances & headings.. seem to remember one peice of software advertising naismiths rule calculations or similar
& map printouts (i probably just skimmed over that one)
i think i will have run out of questions after this.
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ed_m Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:49 am Post subject: |
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ok.. well i just ordered it .. will see how i get on with it |
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ed_m Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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so far so good..... download waypoints and tracks from gps ok...
next step to build a route and upload to the gps... |
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