I had to use a paper map...

markbatey · Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 6:03 pm Post subject: I had to use a paper map...

Hi,
For the first time, tomtom let me down the other day - and to my shame I had to get the map out. This is what happened: Driving down the A1 in North Yorkshire with Dover set as a destination, I heard on the radio that the road was blocked a few miles south of Catterick. I pulled off at Scotch Corner, and tried to get an alternative route that would get me back on the A1 at Leeming Bar about ten miles further south.
I couldn't find anything in the software that would let me do it. I tried "avoid roadblock" but the furthest off you can programme that on my V5.0 is I think three miles away. I tried "avoid part of route", but my route was on the A1 for the next hundred miles, and I only wanted to avoid the next ten!
This is just what I got the gps for, and I couldn't make it help me out. Am I missing something here? Really don't want to get that old paper map out again if I can help it!

julianbarker · Lifetime Member Joined: Apr 12, 2005 Posts: 431

Leave motorway and plot a route to the junction on the A1 you want to rejoin at. Then tell it to avoid A1. It will then plot you to the A1 at the Junction not using the A1. Then you can plot to Dover just as you reapproach the A1 at that junction. Works for me.

eillo7 · Regular Visitor Joined: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 199

That's alot of fuss and bother inputting another route and having to tell it which junction you want to go to.

I agree with markbatey - why is there not an easier option? Or is there...? Confused

lbendlin · Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:11 pm Post subject:

Yes, there is. Use Mapopolis and enter the avoid/route through directly on the screen...
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julianbarker · Lifetime Member Joined: Apr 12, 2005 Posts: 431

eillo7 · Regular Visitor Joined: Aug 19, 2005 Posts: 199

Julian, I did read the original post thank you...I'd be a bit of a chump posting replies without doing so, wouldn't I? Rolling Eyes

The OP was remarking that the maximum roadblock avoidance is 3 miles, and avoiding part of route, as the obvious easy alternative, is sometimes impractical.

Your solution is indeed elegant and serves the need - but the point I was making is that it would be good if there were a way that involved less input. For example, an option to avoid roadblock for X miles, or a longer default option than 3 miles.

This could even be achieved 'on the move' with some care, without requiring a stop to re-route.

I'm sorry if I offended with my choice of words (which were aimed more at the limitations of the software). I was not intending to belittle your reply which was entirely correct.

...and thank you for pointing out that you can route by selecting a point on the map - that was quite useful as I had forgotten that option exists. Smile

alix776 · Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject:

a waypoint slected off the map would have done what the OP wanted
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julianbarker · Lifetime Member Joined: Apr 12, 2005 Posts: 431

No offense taken! :D

I agree that it would be wonderful if TT did losts more than it does. However, most things people want to do it will do wit ht a small amount of work.

neil01 · Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject:

I would always recommend keeping an up-to-date map with you just in case. Yes there are ways around most routing problems - but sometimes it is easier to have a look at a map which shows a far greater area around a blockage than any PDA could ever hope to (at a reasonable scale).

Additionally, there are problems other than blockages to take into account - the technical ones which render your satnav useless.

Another advantage of an atlas is that it is usually more up-to-date than any electronic maps, especially with new roads which are often displayed 'dotted in' with an expected opening date - something you never get with the electronic ones, which for technical reasons can't include any road until it is actually open.

astrocompass · Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject:

neil01 · Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject:

The technical reasons are that until a road is actually open you can't (shouldn't) route anyone down it, and as expectecd dates are not always the actual date, they can't be programmed in.

I am very suprised to find that you were directed down a new unfinished road as they maps just don't include unfinished roads (errors excepted of course) - could the new road be over a previous road (ie closed and then widened for the bypass) or perhaps the instruction refered to the road layout before the new road appeared.

Oldboy · Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:46 pm Post subject:

neil01 · Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject:

In that case, it looks if the map data supplied was in error, since if I understand correctly, it is not supposed to contain any unfinished sections of road (or is this just a result of the way the map data is compiled so that the navigation software can use it?).

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