TomTom 5 with Kirrio GPS Cradle - NO SOUND

chinnorbiker · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 10, 2006 Posts: 9

Hi,
My HP RZ1710 came with ViaMichelin software and a Kirrio GPS cradle but the Via michelin software is crap, so I bought TomTom 5 for it. I installed the TT on a seperate SD card, and once installed i managed to find a GPS signal from the kirrio kit with a bit of playing around with ports etc.

When plugging the GPS Cradle into the fag lighter, the ViaMichelin software tries to start, but an error message appears. I can then manually start the Tomtom 5 software and use it.

The only problem I have is that the TT software won't use the Kirrio cradles speaker, so the sound output is very low and inaudiable when going fast.

Any help much apprieciated,

Oliver

melpen · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 19, 2005 Posts: 8

If you resolve this problem, please post it, have been trying to fix this problem for months now

Fizza · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jun 13, 2006 Posts: 1

Hi Oliver,
I have the rz1710 (gps bundle)
Would it be possible for you to tell me how you got the gps to work with the tomtom software.
I agree with you, the via michelin was very limited so bought the tomtom software but cant get it to find a signal
Hope you can help
Did you find out how to get the sound working?

Thanks,

John

lbendlin · Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:23 am Post subject:

Just so you know there was a question earlier regarding iGO and the Kirrio cradle. Our understanding is that the Kirrio sound will ONLY work with Via Michelin. Best is to stay away from both the cradle and the software.
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jaylay30 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jun 05, 2006 Posts: 6

Ive just upgraded from viamichelin to tomtom 5 on my 1710. Just installed it and it came up and ran ok? I had to uninstalled viamichelin to stop it running when the pda was put in the cradle. I left the gpsutility progam on my 1710 incase its required (I dont know if it is or not). I set tomtom to 'Other NMEA Cable' Baud rate 19200 com port 1 and away it went. Sound is fine. It may sound stupid and I'm not saying you are but have you checked the sound is turned up on both your PDA and in tomtom? They both have volumn controls.

lbendlin · Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:28 am Post subject:

Is the sound coming through the cradle though?
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jaylay30 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jun 05, 2006 Posts: 6

I believe it is but must admit Ive not checked as the sound is ok. Next time I'm in my car I'll have a listen and post back.

jaylay30 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jun 05, 2006 Posts: 6

lbendlin,
your right. I think the sound is coming from my pda not the cradle. I can hear it ok in my megane when at speed so didnt realise. I must admit that I didnt think the cradles speakers wereup to much as they werent that clear.

I notice tomtom do a package with the 1710. What cradles does that use?

Silav101 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 30, 2005 Posts: 48

That uses a "standard" carkit, which powers the PDA through a cigarette lighter cable and has an RJ-11 input for the Wired GPS-receiver.

CraigPearson · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jul 13, 2006 Posts: 2

Hi there,
I have an Ipaq 1710 with a kirrio cradle running Tom Tom software. I did use Via Michelin but un-installed it. As a consequence the gpsutility.exe has been removed, and now the PDA will not talk to the Kirrio cradle. Can someone out there send me the gpsutility.exe file from their PDA? I cannot find anywhere to download it. The file should be in \Program Files\ViaMichelin\Navigation\GPSUtility.exe on the PDA.
Please send to craigpearson004@hotmail.com
Cheers.

CraigPearson · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jul 13, 2006 Posts: 2

Its okay - the gpsutility.exe is installed if you install one of the patches available on the viamichelin website (I moved from Viamichelin v3.11 to v3.2 and gpsutility.exe suddenly appeared!)

GadgetUK164 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Feb 15, 2007 Posts: 2

Has anyone managed to get the speak output working between TomTom 5/ 6 and the Kirrio cradle?

I am looking to work with other developers on a solution to this problem. I just bought the rx1950 with the Kirrio and ViaMichelin. Tomtom 6 is way better and bought myself a copy, but it doesn't 'drive' the speaker on the Kirrio.

I have a couple of theories here. Firstly lets tackle the blue LED issue. The LED is 'driven' by the ViaMichelin software and you can see an executable that sits in the \Program Files\ViaMichelin folder. If you run it, it lights the LED... I think this is just a cosmetic thing, but it could be 'powering' the speaker, although I think it's unlikely and it's purely a cosmetic indicator.

As for the sound output, I tried to get hold of the tech specs for the HP IPAQ rx1950 from the HP developer site, BUT you have to pay $199 per year to get access to specs and code samples etc.

I suspect ViaMichelin is enabling the audio line out, which sends the audio via the expansion connector, into the speaker which is already powered by your 12v battery in the car.

If we could produce an executable that simply switches on this 'AUX' secondary line output for the audio it would work when you load Tomtom, or any other GPS software. I am sure this would be a really quick fix if we can get hold of someone who is subscribed to the HP developer network. It's so frustrating...

GadgetUK164 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Feb 15, 2007 Posts: 2

Well, I contacted HP to see if they can get someone in the developer community to help. I pointed out that if I could get the tech specs for the rx1950 I could probably solve this, but $200 just to fix this problem is out of the question for me. I will update this thread if HP reply. I have been told they have forwarded the information onto the dev community.

coliog · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 04, 2007 Posts: 1

Any progress on the kirrio cradle for rx1950 yet? I too uninstalled ViaMichelin but when I try to run TomTom6 in the cradle it says "no GPS device" on screen. Would be glad to hear any help

alimoo · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 08, 2007 Posts: 1

We have also got a kirrio cradle with the rx1950. Viamichelin was so awful we got the Tom Tom software but the gps is not detected. How do we make this work, I have played around with the baud rate etc, but not found the solution.

If we give up on it what is the best solution? (we like the rx1950, but need the satnav and we definitely prefer TomTom)

Thanks for your help.

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