CoPilot6 Add stop by map & track

Reffolds · Occasional Visitor Joined: May 03, 2005 Posts: 13

I am not finding stop locations by postcodes / address very accurate. So I want to use pick on map. It starts fine by letting me specify a postcode, then address, but I never get the option to actually arrive at the map so I can make the final choice precisely. Am I doing something wrong?

It would be a great help if a stop point in favourites could be edited - both the name and the position. Is that possible?

How do I turn on tracking? I can find the option to play tracks back, but not where to create them in the first place. When I play back the sample (to Wisbech) from the play GPS track all I get is seeing the position cursor move on the map. Yet when I play the demo I get the guidance screen as if I was driving

Can the CoPilot application be installed to my SDcard? I am getting very short of main & built-in storage - currently installed in built-in storage(AXIM X50V).

Thanks for any help that saves me hours experimenting.

BMWBiker

BMWBiker

PONDEROUS · Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:05 pm Post subject:

Could I add to BMWBiker's responses.

When you select Pick On Map, the screen that follows is intended to allow you to view a map somewhere you think will be near your desired destination. You can do that by nearby Address, nearby Postcode, etc. When presented with the map, having entered the Address, Postcode, etc. you pick a point with the stylus (as described by BMWBiker) after scrolling around to find exactly where to be.

The confusion probably arises because CP 6 offers the choice of naming the address entered - just as if it was the destination. If one actually names it, no entry in Favourites is prodcued, so this is an example of something that was not resolved during development.

Choosing to view a stop on the map displays a very similar window. In both cases, the route so far calculated is not displayed in the window. This severely limits the usefulness of these facilities, unlike in TomTom, and I feel that this urgently needs to be addressed in CP 7.
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Reffolds · Occasional Visitor Joined: May 03, 2005 Posts: 13

BMbiker,

I have tried selecting a point by map again.

In Select Stop, I select Pick on Map

I am invited to start search by address, favourite, contact or POI

I select Address

Select UK, next

enter postcode. I am given a huge number of choices based on the first 4 postcode letters / numbers (why not use the whole postcode? I am trying to mark the precise location of someone when I know the postcode AND their actual location). I select one of them, press next

I am asked to enter street address so I enter road name & press next.

I am presented with options for street name - general street name, nearby address, cross-street, streets in nearby cities,..... I the general name, press next

I am asked to name the location and press finish

Ah! Eureka! I am presented with a map (previoulsy assumed finish would be the end so cancelled)

NOW I get the map and can choose a point AND can name it. AND the previous name I entered for the street isn't saved to favourites.

Bit odd, but it works. Thanks for encouraging me to go through it fully.

Thanks also for the other tips.

BMWBiker · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 4:20 am Post subject: Re: Find stop by point on map

PONDEROUS · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:42 am Post subject:

Following the above discussion, it is perhaps worth asking if anyone knows any means of displaying the route displayed so far in the windows where a point is picked from the map and where a route stop is displayed on the map?
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BMWBiker · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:04 pm Post subject:

Sorry, Ponderous, I can't understand your question.
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BMWBiker · Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:15 pm Post subject:

Oh, I see what you mean, Ponderous. We are both disappointed in the "special map" that is displayed when you Pick Stop from Map, or when you select a stop in the "Add stop" dialog and tap on "Map". The map displayed here has limited zoom capability and shows no trip info. I don't know of any way to change this.

You (and I) would like to see the "trip calculated so far" on this map . But you only get the trip route display after pressing "Get directions" and you return to the "real map", that has much more zooming capability.

The workaround (if this was your question) is to press Get Directions, then view the "trip calculated so far", then return to menu, trip, add stop.
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CoPilot 6.0.1.24 (USA)
Compaq iPaq 3970, with PC2003
Navman sleeve (3400)
Blue Tooth GPS

PONDEROUS · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:26 am Post subject:

Thanks, BMWBiker.

Yes, that is exactly what I meant. The reason I refer to the "route calculated so far" is because the context of looking in these little map windows (why do they have to be little??) is often a route review.
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PONDEROUS · Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:44 am Post subject:

I'll just add a little to my response above to BMWBiker.

What I was trying to say about these "special map windows" is highly relevant to your own question to Elmo some time ago, i.e. whether it was possible to jump to a map window from any point on the route instructions (rather than from just the stops - which remains all that is on offer). My point is that even if you could "jump-to" in the way that you hoped, the map windows would be of little use, as the route is not displayed in any case.

I think that it is important to clarify these issues, as ALK do not seem to be taking them on board when developing their potentially world-beating navigator, now that its routing is so much improved, which also scores so highly with some sophisticated facilities, but unfortunately stumbles so badly where the basics are concerned. In my view, therefore, the objective must be to encourage them to understand what is needed in the next version, if not, preferably, in an early patch.
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BMWBiker · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:28 pm Post subject:

A further note (well, a repeated one) on 'jump to point on map': the CoPilot desktop works perfectly here. You can click on any line in the itinerary and it will jump to the map, showing the route, with the turn in question in the center. This is what is needed for the PPC.
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CoPilot 6.0.1.24 (USA)
Compaq iPaq 3970, with PC2003
Navman sleeve (3400)
Blue Tooth GPS

PONDEROUS · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject:

I'll just add another note there, BMWBiker , if you don't mind, just in case there are readers who have not yet seen Copilot.

As can be seen, Copilot 6 has some limitations. However, it has other features that far exceed most other Pocket Personal Computer (PPC) -based in-car navigation aids.

One of these features is the Copilot Desktop, which BMWBiker mentioned above. This is a version of CP 6 that runs on the Desktop PC, on which those users who know in advance exactly where they will be going can plan routes in the comfort of the home or office, then transfer them from the Desktop to the PPC. This means, among other things, that many fleet managers will be able to pre-load drivers' routes for the day - and they can get Copilot to work out a route around multiple stops.
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PONDEROUS · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:13 pm Post subject:

As this thread is relevant to route planning and reviewing issues, I will continue it by asking another question.

I have never been able to get Copilot to display the street names until the map has been zoomed to such a large scale that very few streets can be seen at once. This means that looking for nearby locations is unnecessarily difficult. I appreciate that touching a street with the stylus will display the name, but that is insufficient.

Also, when the map is at a fairly small scales, so few cities, towns and villages are named that it can be difficult to judge where is where. These limitations are unnecessary, as I know from using other products that "it can be done".

Does anyone know of some means of changing the extent to which street and place names are displayed on the maps, please?
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BMWBiker · Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 7:42 pm Post subject:

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