Looking for an alternative to TomTom

Conor · Regular Visitor Joined: May 01, 2004 Posts: 73

Having being bitterly disappointed with TT5, I've decided to try and pursue a refund and am looking elsewhere other than TomTom. It is quite obvious from both the version 3 and 5 I have bought that they are more than happy to release poor BETA versions of a product to market that actually break some of the stuff working fine in previous versions. Added to that the alleged inaccuracy of Tele maps which has shown in alot of cases to actually be a TomTom problem (version 3 missing towns farce anyone?) and all in all I'm not a happy bunny.

All I want is something with reasonably up to date maps, allows me to tweak speed settings and has a proper working postcode lookup. Not bothered about POIs, POI warnings etc.

Ideas?

tom9851 · Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:56 pm Post subject:

Hi Conor. I was going to suggest you perhaps look at CoPilot5 as an alternative but reading some of the comments on that forum I think they too have a fair amount of very unhappy bunnies!
Might be worth thinking about sticking with TTN3 for the time being - "better the devil you know" and all that! TTN5 clearly has some problems which I would have thought TomTom must make urgent moves to rectify or their credibility will be totally blown away!
I (also a trucker) am going to stick with TTN3 (despite it's imperfections) - it has served me pretty well so far - and will not install TTN5 until it has been sorted.
Other than that I don't really know what to suggest.

Cheers

Tom
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Conor · Regular Visitor Joined: May 01, 2004 Posts: 73

I think that is probably the safest option.

Going to install Digitools Postcode on TT5 for a laugh to see if it works. Intending on going back to TT3 anyway so it won;t make much of a difference.

lbendlin · Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 3:40 pm Post subject:

Digitools postcode won't work on v5 - the API seems to be different.

You can also have a look at PrymeNav - those guys even have "least turn" routing.
If I recall correctly Alturion was also offering some truck specific features.
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paulbo · Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:04 pm Post subject:

I was always rather fond of the way CoPilot would text-to-speech the road names, "Turn left onto Smith Square" for example, was nice. Can't be that processor/space intensive, as this was some 3-4 years back. Suspect that there are licensing issues[1] for the TTS engine, though.

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[1] aka 'additional cost'

Diplo · Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:17 pm Post subject:

The simple fact is that GPS navigation for ordinary folks is still in it's infancy and thus will never be perfect no matter what software you choose. I doubt you'll ever find software that is totally reliable and infallible simply because the raw data can never be 100% accurate. Likewise PDA software will never be 100% reliable either because there are so many combinations of operating system, hardware and GPS receivers that it would be impossible to test them all. The results you get will vary depending on what hardware you have, where abouts you live and many other variables. Good luck finding something that suits you!
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Robin2 · Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:28 pm Post subject:

Before investing in Pryme Nav, read the following quote from another forum:

"Pryme nav software. Not so good. If I had to rely on this to navigate me I would have been very lost several times now! The place names database is very impressive and is rarely caught out (provided you have enough memory in your PDA, I had to increase mine with a 256Mb card)the navigation is then normally quick to start and get you on your way but will it always get you there? No. On trips within England to both rural and urban locations the unit has on several occasions just given up with "no route to destination" showing on the screeen, especially if you have missed one of the directions . You then need to stop, re-enter your destination and let it start again, with no guarantee that it will get you there without needing another stop.
The software has a definite "Version 1" feel to it but there is no signs yet of an update to version 2, at least for UK users. At best I feel that the software will allow me to head in the right direction! Maybe GP Systems (or Fortuna) would like to comment?"

Robin
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Conor · Regular Visitor Joined: May 01, 2004 Posts: 73

alix776 · Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 5:25 pm Post subject:

it does say your tt3 licence will no longer be valid if you update to tt5 before you complete the update proceedure
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Oh the joys of being a courier.
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soweezy · Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:01 pm Post subject:

I think the best setup was TTN3 with TTN 4.4 HP edition maps, along with Checkpoint and UKpostcodes add-ons

at least with TTN3 my house was listed as in the correct village, now TTN5 tells me I live in the next village but on the same road (that doesn't exist in the next village)

sooner TT move over to Navteq maps and fix the bugs the better
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Loobster · Regular Visitor Joined: Apr 16, 2005 Posts: 66

I agree, TT3 with v4.4 maps and checkpoint is great. I have the USA2004 maps too which are compatible with TT3 so USA routing is good too.

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alix776 · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:49 am Post subject:

im looking into alturion at the mo (note to self must email) Laughing

will post what its for us Laughing

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Oh the joys of being a courier.
device Lumia 950 xl

v0n · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:00 pm Post subject:

The closest option I found is Navigon Mobile Navigator 5. A friend of mine use it and many problems are actually resolved better than in TT5. It has newer maps, can be customised to omit small country roads, less problematic outlook contacts integration, TMC (FM based) automatic traffic alternatives, gps logger etc. Display of roads is still slightly cruder than TT5 in many aspects but the only major gripe I noticed was horribly slow menus (apparently to be fixed in the future) and the fact that when we put his PDA in my Navman 3450 jacket Navigon it just refused to find any satellites even with all the drivers properly installed.

v0n · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:00 pm Post subject:

The closest option I found is Navigon Mobile Navigator 5. A friend of mine use it and many problems are actually resolved better than in TT5. It has newer maps, can be customised to omit small country roads, less problematic outlook contacts integration, TMC (FM based) automatic traffic alternatives, gps logger etc. Display of roads is still slightly cruder than TT5 in many aspects but the only major gripe I noticed was horribly slow menus (apparently to be fixed in the future) and the fact that when we put his PDA in my Navman 3450 jacket Navigon it just refused to find any satellites even with all the drivers properly installed.

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