Navman 510 and report on topgear

gizmomoggy · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 26, 2005 Posts: 9

If any one has just watched topgear on BBC 2 they will see just what a total pile of crap the 510 is getting the driver lost on numerous occasions on the way to Oxford city centre.
Come on Navman now everyone has had proof what a total pile of sh*t the 510 really is.

Well done Top gear for verifiying what many of us have found out to our own cost by investing goodmoney in a totally crap unit.

ShirleyTemple · Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 9:15 pm Post subject:

Interesting comments of yours....

I've just travelled from Southampton to Plymouth and then a thousand miles around the French Pyrenees Mountains on a bike and my conclusion is that the unit performed brilliantly.

It occurs to me that in your case it might just be the operator???
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gizmomoggy · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 26, 2005 Posts: 9

I would be carefull making accusations lke that !!.
It is common knowledge regarding the errors of the 510.
Yes you maybe one of the lucky ones who,s unit does work but believe me making silly accusations like that does nothing for this forum where problems are readily aired and hopefully resolved.
Navman must be aware of satellite fix problems and also in adequate mapping systems which lead to these errors occuring.
I have all the relevant certificates in my field as an engineer utilizing gps and mapping and believe me user error imput is not something i am in the habbit of doing.

Get a life and stop accusing people of user errors as i am far from an idiot !!!!!!!

ShirleyTemple · Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 10:22 pm Post subject:

Then stop talking like one...............
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ferret79

To say that the problem with these 510's is down to "Operator Faults" is in my mind pretty darned insulting and we can do without that sort of comment neither do we want to hear about the few good ones out there (you lucky people) we all read the manual when we have problems its just that these darned things are not as intended but are just novelties to comb ones hair in as they do make good mirrors so they at least have some use..I changed to Garmin - they do what they supposed to do and that is get you there EVERY TIME and with a fix every time and inside 15 seconds at that. I have had 2 of them and 10 of my freinds have them and never a complaint from any of them..well done Garmin for the best device on the market.. and no they are not paying me to write this thread. I can only sympathise with gismomogy because i had the same exsperience, I took my first 1 back - got a second 1 as a replacement..that went back and got a third one ..that was no better but it made a nice clay target. Embarassed

gizmomoggy · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 26, 2005 Posts: 9

Thanks for that ferret 99.
You hit the bulls eye.
I think garmin is the way.
I suppose we have to tolerate people who send replies like that.
No doubt their sarcastic replies make their day for them.
Get A life!!!!
Don,t get personal

AlfieB · Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject:

Well

at the end of the day you pays your money and takes your choice I hope you will be happy with Garmin. One things sure you can't please everybody but there is no need to be offensive Exclamation

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Tim Buxton · Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 11:13 am Post subject:

Wow, this is quite heated for such a short thread! gizmomoggy and ferret79, I guess you both have an axe to grind with the iCN510? I didn't see the programme myself but I read in another topic that the Tomtom GO fared equally poorly. That you failed to mention this is what has led me to that conclusion.

I don't have a 510 but I do have a sleeve, a 4100 and now a 635 as well and I can honestly say that none of them have ever got me lost.

I have had the opportunity to use TTN5, AA Navigator, Navigon 4.2, Destinator and most recently Garmin Que, but I keep coming back to SmartST (although the Que maps are growing on me if only for their accuracy.

ferret79, why don't you want to hear about the few good ones out there? Surely if you are going going to write how poor the iCN510 is, you have to expect satisfied users to redress the balance? Just out of interest, which Garmin do you have?
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djmek · Regular Visitor Joined: Dec 23, 2004 Posts: 126

Gizmology, and Ferret.... You two have obviously got faulty units, ferret... you returned yours, so what are you still doing in the 510 forum, Gizmology... if you actually bought one why did'nt you take it back and get another one.?
As for top gear, Jeremy clarkson and his little boy racer teams OBVIOUSLY did'nt know how to programme the the unit or they would'nt have got lost in the first place, provided they had a unit that worked ok in the first place, remember that JC tries for laughs most of the time and anyone who takes his comments seriously should re-examine their braincells. (example... slating 45 thousand pound cars cos he does'nt like the seats.
I would never take anyones opinion on the 510 or any other sat/nav for granted, I personally did research into what i was buying with the cash i had to spend on one, and the 510 is perfect in EVERY WAY for me, its even showed me shortcuts I never knew about. I also spent one month in doing so.
"Operator Faults" ?? YES IT IS, learn how to work the thing and you'll find like myself it does the job perfectly.

ferret79 · Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 7:20 pm Post subject: Operator Faults" ?? YES IT IS

Ok.... No there is nothing personal intented about this but can you please tell us "How we can get these units to get a sat fix" when they refuse to do so and in my case fixes were none existent....regarding the good ones there isn't much point in keep hearing about them cause if you have got a good one then i'm happy for you.. thankfully it don't apply to me any more because i dont have one anymore.... but i still sympathise with the others out there with the problems that i had...I programed my third one with shortest route and fastest time then launched it from a clay pigeon trap followed by a ounce and an eighth of lead..... ..All 3 of the ones i had would not "lock on" which included reloading and cold starts can you please tell us what we did (or are doing) wrong as you seem to think its our fault... so can you please educate us and tell us how to get a satalite fix when it won't as i have obviosely missed something in the instructions. We would all be very greatfull to here your views why its operator error as it might help others with the same problem.

Daytona · Regular Visitor Joined: Apr 03, 2005 Posts: 60

"The Hamster" had about 6 different GPS systems set up and the navman was just one of them so I think it's unfair to heap blame on one particular unit. Perhaps he was following TomTom at the time...

Simon1 · Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 9:07 pm Post subject:

Actually I found it very helpful to hear a balanced opinion from those who have good units and those who have faulty ones. It helped me make my mind up to buy the Navman and although it's by no means perfect, mine operates with little fault and I have no reason to think it has anything wrong with it.

If someone doing research only read negative reports, they would wrongly assume that there are no working units out there. I think you'll find, ferret and gizmo, that the majority of units do work fine. That may not help you and you will have done the right thing in getting your money back and reporting your problems to this forum for others to see. However to assume that only a "few" units work properly based on your experience is pretty narrow-minded. I doubt it was operator error - I think you had naff units. Not good from your or Navman's perspectives.

Let's keep hearing about problems, positives, tips,etc. It all helps to build knowledge and familiarity. And let's face it, Navman's customer support isn't what it could be.

alix776 · Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 9:21 pm Post subject:

ferret does your car have a heat refelective windscreen

ive not seen the episode myself but from my knowledge of the uk oxford put oneways streets in and take others out for fun or they used to when i did furniture home delivery anyway, as both units failed ie go and 510 i think it was that the roads had change since the maps were produced if a map is released tomorrow with the qoute.. lastest data you can bet its atleast 2 months out of data if they could release updatas monthly then the map would be out of date too as soon as it was released because some traffic flow expert Confused

decides to put a new roundbout in here and take one out there make that a oneway street or put a new oneway sytem in this can be done i 2 weeks i kid you not ive seen it happen
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djmek · Regular Visitor Joined: Dec 23, 2004 Posts: 126

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