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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Now you are just sitting on the fence suss. Too fast AND too close. No, it must be one or the other, not both.
The 'too fast' argument is just stupid. If you drive slower than the car in front, you will keep on increasing the distance between you and the car.
The object of the exercise on the majority of roads is to keep up with the traffic flow by maintaining approximately the same speed as the car in front (whatever speed that is, be it 20 MPH or 70 MPH.) But, you must maintain an adequate DISTANCE between your car and the car in front, so that you can stop before using the rear of his car as a brake if he reduces speed/ stops suddenly.
So Bollox. The answer is DISTANCE. Or is it 42. |
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14893 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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It’s 47 and SPEED. _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
Two of them are obesiting!! |
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sussamb Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Mar 18, 2011 Posts: 4457 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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M8TJT wrote: | Now you are just sitting on the fence suss. Too fast AND too close. No, it must be one or the other, not both. |
That's why you're both wrong ... And both right.
You could say they were too close regardless of speed ... Or at the correct distance but going too fast ... So when the first car braked they couldn't stop in time _________________ Where there's a will ... there's a way. |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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sussamb wrote: | Number one rule from the police Roadcraft handbook ... You must always be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear | Note the word distance. There is absolutely no mention of speed at all.
Hoisted by your own petard I think suss |
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AliOnHols Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Oct 15, 2008 Posts: 1936
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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@mmm-five, Good find. _________________ Garmin Nuvi 2599
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sussamb Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Mar 18, 2011 Posts: 4457 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:08 am Post subject: |
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M8TJT wrote: | sussamb wrote: | Number one rule from the police Roadcraft handbook ... You must always be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear | Note the word distance. There is absolutely no mention of speed at all.
Hoisted by your own petard I think suss |
That's achieved though by adjusting your speed as necessary ... _________________ Where there's a will ... there's a way. |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 7056 Location: Reading
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:40 am Post subject: |
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Plus you need to be alert or the distance you create is enough for some wag to try and get into.
Roadcraft to me is staying safe and causing issues for the ignorant/selfish ones who always try and be the one in front, not maintaining their order in the procession. _________________ Satnav:
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sussamb Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Mar 18, 2011 Posts: 4457 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 8:48 am Post subject: |
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I remember one police driving instructor saying to me that it can all be summed up in one phrase, drive with space around you .... enough so you can cope with anything that happens. _________________ Where there's a will ... there's a way. |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 9:57 am Post subject: |
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sussamb wrote: | M8TJT wrote: | sussamb wrote: | Number one rule from the police Roadcraft handbook ... You must always be able to stop in the distance you can see to be clear | Note the word distance. There is absolutely no mention of speed at all.
Hoisted by your own petard I think suss | That's achieved though by adjusting your speed as necessary ... |
Absolutely correct, but having 'adjusted your speed as necessary' to increase the gap to a 'safe' distance, you then have to resume your original speed to maintain that safe distance. So, you see, speed is irrelevant providing you do not decrease the 'safe' distance for the prevailing conditions.
I'm getting bored with this. |
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sussamb Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Mar 18, 2011 Posts: 4457 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Well you and I don't disagree on most of that, although you wouldn't be resuming your original speed but rather maintaining the speed you're now at to maintain that distance, but unless nothing changes it's then a constant adjustment of speed to adjust the distance as traffic around you changes speed
I'm bored too _________________ Where there's a will ... there's a way. |
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