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Darren
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| Andy_P wrote: | | But reception in itself would be very hard to legislate against, otherwise all these people who pick up Radio 3 on their fillings might end up in trouble. |
But there is already legislation in place which prohibits anyone from using equipment to receive transmissions that they are not permitted to, Section 5(1)(b) of the WT Act 1949 is one example:
| Quote: | Under this section it is an offence if a person "otherwise than under the authority of a designated person,
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(i) uses any wireless telegraphy apparatus with intent to obtain information as to the contents, sender or addressee of any message whether sent by means of wireless telegraphy or not, of which neither the person using the apparatus nor a person on whose behalf he is acting is an intended recipient;
This means that it is illegal to listen to anything other than general reception transmissions unless you are either a licensed user of the frequencies in question or have been specifically authorised to do so by a designated person. A designated person means:
the Secretary of State;
the Commissioners of Customs and Excise; or
any other person designated for the purpose by regulations made by the Secretary of State. |
Picking up Radio 3 via your fillings would not be an offence as that is a transmission intended for 'General Reception' albeit normally via receiver intended for radio reception and not an amalgam filling 
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Andy_P
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Darren wrote: |
But there is already legislation in place which prohibits anyone from using equipment to receive transmissions that they are not permitted to... |
 That's another of my long-held beliefs blown out of the water then! 
Thanks for putting me right on that... I'm even more of a criminal than I thought I was! |
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M8TJT
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Darren wrote: | But there is already legislation in place which prohibits anyone from using equipment to receive transmissions that they are not permitted to, Section 5(1)(b) of the WT Act 1949 is one example:
This means that it is illegal to listen to anything other than general reception transmissions unless you are either a licensed user of the frequencies in question or have been specifically authorised to do so by a designated person. |
As I suspected, we already have a law covering it, so why do we need another one? Why is this confusing the police? Seems pretty straightforward to me.
I understand the different principles between detectors and a lat/long database, but NOT the reasons given for being allowed to use one but not the other. If knowing that a camera is in a certain location enhances the government policy, why does it make a difference HOW you know? Meddling nanny state again. |
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Darren
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| M8TJT wrote: | | As I suspected, we already have a law covering it, so why do we need another one? |
Because a test case concluded that the provisions of the WT Act did not cater for radar detectors, the argument being that no 'information' was received.
Consequently, the new act seeks to redress this anomaly.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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| like the way everyone claims copyright to info sent out and published by the government |
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Darren
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| gardenshed wrote: | | like the way everyone claims copyright to info sent out and published by the government |
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| Darren wrote: | | gardenshed wrote: | | like the way everyone claims copyright to info sent out and published by the government |
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read the first post where they claim the rights to the camera sites and wont share them with any other site....... |
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gardenshed
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| Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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save you looking, here
| Quote: | | So now we had a database that is 100% accurate and that no other speed camera detector will ever be able to use (remember our shareholding in the mapping company -- we have the exclusive rights to the fixed speed camera locations database and we will NEVER allow any rival to use these locations). |
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Darren
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Ah right, yes just more BTST rubbish!
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| Darren wrote: | | Ah right, yes just more BTST rubbish! |
exactly what I thought, which is why I coughed up my sleeve  , you've got to be old to remember that saying  |
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