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Joined: May 17, 2004 Posts: 212 Location: Fife Scotland
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject:
john877 wrote:
Did you have the only warn when on planned route ticked !!!
If not you will get warnings from cameras in close proximity to the roads you are traveling on
TBH I cant remember now. Not even sure if there was that option back then (using navigator 5 maybe 6 then not a PNA)
One thing that does annoy me about the TT system for Speed cams is the Add new cam thing and updates over GPRS.
The theory is brilliant, it just doesnt work in practice.
I would guess that most ppl that buy TT's or any satnav dont get them connected to phones and GPRS.
If they did, and added the Mobile camera as they passed it and updated then the system would be second to none, users would get live, real, up to date locations of the mobile vans. Just a shame it dont work like that!
Anyway, had a look on the google map you have and at my local area, the locations look much much improved and can vouch for many of the mobile locations (no fixed cams in Fife) as well as the fixed ones across the Forth etc. So, have just paid my £19 and have downloaded the POI's.
Shame the add location tool dont work with V7 of the x20 series.
I will let you know how I get on in the next few days.
Joined: Sep 30, 2005 Posts: 988 Location: St Martin's, Guernsey
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject:
When I got my Go last month I intended that the second thing I would do after backing up would be to remove TomTom's speed cams. But they weren't on it in the first place so it saved me the bother. _________________ TT Go Essential
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14893 Location: Keynsham
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject:
Tomo wrote:
If they did, and added the Mobile camera as they passed it and updated then the system would be second to none, users would get live, real, up to date locations of the mobile vans. Just a shame it dont work like that!
Well, did you expect it to? Have you not heard of the MapShare wonder system? Works in much the same way.
Did I mention the RDS-TMC system?
Or maybe the Latest Map Guarantee system?
Or perhaps the support system? Y'know, that's the one with people who don't understand any English at all, but who can read keywords and then press an "appropriate" (?) button. _________________ Dennis
Joined: May 17, 2004 Posts: 212 Location: Fife Scotland
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:32 pm Post subject:
DennisN wrote:
Tomo wrote:
If they did, and added the Mobile camera as they passed it and updated then the system would be second to none, users would get live, real, up to date locations of the mobile vans. Just a shame it dont work like that!
Well, did you expect it to? Have you not heard of the MapShare wonder system? Works in much the same way.
Did I mention the RDS-TMC system?
Or maybe the Latest Map Guarantee system?
Or perhaps the support system? Y'know, that's the one with people who don't understand any English at all, but who can read keywords and then press an "appropriate" (?) button.
Yeah, I know.......... all but to be in an ideal world.
Although........ Road Angel must think its a good idea as their latest offering has a SIM built in so the locations can be recorded and updated while on the move. I wonder if this will work?
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:44 am Post subject:
Tomo wrote:
Although........ Road Angel must think its a good idea as their latest offering has a SIM built in so the locations can be recorded and updated while on the move. I wonder if this will work?
The idea is great but in practice it didn't work. They have sold very few of the RA 9000's so there aren't enough users reporting the cameras AND the darned device doesn't show you were a camera site is even when you approach on. It alarms and flashes etc but despite having a large screen with map, it doesn't have on-screen icons! _________________ Darren Griffin
Joined: Jun 20, 2005 Posts: 1096 Location: Solihull, UK
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:28 am Post subject:
Tomo wrote:
I was commenting that when I took a download of yours (20 months ago)and used them for 3 or 4 weeks I found that although it did warn me of GATSO's, TRUEVELO's, Red Light cams etc......... it also warned me of Speed reduction signs (those that flash at you to slow down), traffic master sensors (the cams on blue poles that are for TMC), slip roads of motorways/DC's where plod sit once in a blue moon etc. The later being very annoying.
Which version of the database did you download? If it was the Single File version, then you would not have been able to distinguish the difference between all the various types of camera, and the constant warnings may have become annoying. However, if you had used either the Consolidated By Type or Speed Zoned version, then you would have been able to identify which of the sites were mobile camera positions rather than fixed cameras. These are intended to identify those places "where plod sit once in a blue moon etc", but as you know it's a mobile site, you can take whatever action you prefer (or even decide not to use the mobile sites).
Joined: May 17, 2004 Posts: 212 Location: Fife Scotland
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:58 am Post subject:
I cant remember now TBH, but I think I tried all of them at the time.
In my opinion, areas where police, thats real police, in real police cars, sit while observing the road writing up their PNB's are not mobile camera locations. Nor are Speed location signs and nor are TMC posts. All these came under the heading of Mobile camera locations.
In this part of the database I was getting alerts of genuine mobile camera locations too so couldnt really disable that part but it was annoying that driving down a road I was getting genuine alerts (I know that Talivans park there) and false alerts past flashing speed warning signs and TMS recievers. In my mind it goes back to using a radar detector that detects live GATSO's but also every set of traffic lights and supermarket doors within a 500 yrd radius. You get used to them and then take no notice.
The mobile locations are probably the most important part of the database, if you think that putting in locations where police sit observing the road is a valid location then I have just wasted £19. Looking the database around my area I can see that all of what would of been false alerts (TMC's/Speed signs etc) have now been removed from the mobile POI set. There needs to be a balance between alerting the user of a possible speed detection point ahead and taking away the drivers concentration from the road cos they are always looking/listening at the TT unit to work out if its going to be a genuine alert or not.
Anyways..............
I have said this already in posts above, this was the case 20 months ago, hence why I didnt continue using the database. I asked a comment if this had changed, it seems that from the answers and looking at the database I have just downloaded that it has. In a massive way it seems, so well done to those that have worked on it, I'm now just working out how to set it up for my preferences.
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