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iwaddo Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:59 pm Post subject: Speed between toll booths |
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Does anybody know if the French actually use your average speed between toll booths to issue speeding tickets?
I know this is very simply to avoid (drive legally or take a brief break) so my question is just one of curiosity.
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Oldboy Pocket GPS Moderator
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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My understanding is yes. When the time stamp is checked it can be seen if you have been (average) speeding. _________________ Richard
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missing_user
Joined: Aug 30, 2008 Posts: -7
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Most definitely!
The Police Officers always wait for you to present your ticket, pay your toll, and then move in to stop you.
They get an indication of overspeeding from the toll booth.
The distance between some peage can be 150 miles [Calais to Reims], if you do it in 90 minutes you could be in trouble |
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Border_Collie Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Feb 01, 2006 Posts: 2543 Location: Rainham, Kent. England.
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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I'll second and third that, except it's the Gendarmes (a soldier, esp. in France, serving in an army group acting as armed police with authority over civilians). If they get bored they'll set up anywhere to catch as many people as possible. (Evidently they get bored very easily).
A few years back I was driving along an Autoroute, doing 130kph, when I was passed by a black Porche with GB plates, he was going like a bat out of hell. Ten minutes or so later I reached the Peage and on leaving noticed it parked up over on the right with five or six Gendarmes hoving over the Brit. I told my French friend and he told me to be careful, when you hand the ticket in the machine flashes up if you've exceeded the limit.
Another trick they get up to, re my mate Christophe, is to park up with something like an old corrugated Renault or Citroen van, jack up one side and take a wheel off. To anyone approaching it looks like someone has had a puncture but they have a speed camera inside the van. Evidently catches many visitors out.
Quote: | I know this is very simply to avoid (drive legally or take a brief break) so my question is just one of curiosity. | With on the spot fines and a chance of being escorted to a cashpoint if you haven't enough cash, it' really is best to stay at or slightly under the limit. _________________ Formerly known as Lost_Property
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iwaddo Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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Thank, looks like I'll be setting my cruise control at just below the limit, thank you |
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mostdom Pocket GPS Moderator
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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: |
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If there is any where you need to avoid, it is the Reims to Calais leg. They always set up a speed gun several miles before the last peage and will stop you after the toll booth and will certainly use the average speed as evidence. I have not yet failed to see them there where they are obiously trying to catch speeding motorists trying to catch their ferry or train who are primarily brits as it happens.
Does lots for anglo french relations me thinks! _________________ Dom
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Silestanix Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, it does. On the A1 from Paris towards Calais...I drive there regularly...I forgot 2-3 years back...I kinda got hit by it...erm...
Only a fine though back then... |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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The Gendarmerie are Military Policemen and operate as France's National Police Force. Their word is enshrined in law, argue with them at your peril! If they say you are speeding then you are and you will be fined in cash on the spot. You are deemed guilty unless you can prove your innocence, a very large difference to here.
Holland have the Koninklijke Marechaussee who are also a Military Police Force with a peacetime civilian role and similar powers. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Border_Collie Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Feb 01, 2006 Posts: 2543 Location: Rainham, Kent. England.
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I know this is very simply to avoid (drive legally or take a brief break) so my question is just one of curiosity. |
Apparently most Brits are caught on the way back to the ferry, especially if running late, that's why I prefer to let the train take the strain, arrive late and they put you on the next available one. _________________ Formerly known as Lost_Property
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14893 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:25 am Post subject: |
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I was pulled over by two French motorcycle cops, not for speeding, for overtaking a lorry in a village. They really tried hard to persuade me to pay a princely sum, but I managed to escape it by pretending not to understand a word. My daughter in the back (aged 8 at the time) piped up helpfully "Why don't you speak French to them, dad?" We shushed her and got away with it. We had nowhere near the amount of Francs they wanted anyway. My daughter had a point - French is my best language!! Maybe the French cops have become tougher since 1971. _________________ Dennis
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: |
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In a town or village it will more likely have been the Police Nationale. These have a much less fearsome reputation, are not para military and perhaps may be more 'reasonable'? _________________ Darren Griffin |
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TuppyTrucker Lifetime Member
Joined: Sep 19, 2006 Posts: 44 Location: Mandeville en Bessin, 5km from OMAHA beach, Nomandie, France
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Lost_Property wrote: | Quote: | I know this is very simply to avoid (drive legally or take a brief break) so my question is just one of curiosity. |
Apparently most Brits are caught on the way back to the ferry, especially if running late, that's why I prefer to let the train take the strain, arrive late and they put you on the next available one. |
P&O in Calais / Dover allow you to be 2hrs either side of your booking without surcharge. _________________ Asus zenFone Android CamerAlert
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TuppyTrucker Lifetime Member
Joined: Sep 19, 2006 Posts: 44 Location: Mandeville en Bessin, 5km from OMAHA beach, Nomandie, France
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Darren wrote: | In a town or village it will more likely have been the Police Nationale. These have a much less fearsome reputation, are not para military and perhaps may be more 'reasonable'? |
Only the Blues (Gendarmerie) or CRS Police National have juristriction everywhere. The white bike cops are CRS. They are much more fierce and have more powers than les Bleus, who will bow to their every word. Some major towns have a local police force, they are part of the National force but only have jurisdiction in thier own area. If you are pulled at the roadside, 99% of the time it will be by les Bleus.
I occasionally work with both les Bleus and the CRS so know a lot of the motards (bike cops). They expect an lengthy argument when they pull a French driver, so when the Brits meekly pay up the first demanded figure they are amazed. Always have a friendly haggle with a French cop, he expects it, but don't get aggrevated or abusive. They always want to avoid as much paperwork as possible so will try for a standard fine for every infringement possible, these are normally 90E each, but you can normally get them down to 1 fine of 45E. If you have lots of time and can be bothered you can refuse to pay anything, as the roadside 'fines' are usually deposits against a court fine. If you have a verifiable French address you don't have to accept an on the spot fine and can sort it out later at court. It has been known to get a refund from the court for a roadside fine, even if you didn't go to court. In theory a magistrate looks at every case where a ticket has been issued. At present speed camera tickets are not issued to UK registered vehicles, but its wise not to get too many in the same area, as they will look out for you. _________________ Asus zenFone Android CamerAlert
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DennisN Tired Old Man
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Note - I was talking of my experience in 1971 - that's before most present day bleus were born! _________________ Dennis
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Posted: Sat May 23, 2009 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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strumble wrote: | Most definitely!
The Police Officers always wait for you to present your ticket, pay your toll, and then move in to stop you.
They get an indication of overspeeding from the toll booth.
The distance between some peage can be 150 miles [Calais to Reims], if you do it in 90 minutes you could be in trouble |
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