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Privateer Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: 30/12/2002 17:36:20 Posts: 4921 Location: Oxfordshire, England, UK
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am Post subject: Alturion and the UK |
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Hi Jean-Paul,
Is there a web site for Alturion that you could give us?
I looked in Yahoo UK and couln't see anything.
Thanks _________________ Robert.
iPhone 6s Plus, iOS 14.0.1: iOS CamerAlert v2.0.7
TomTom GO Mobile iOS 2.3.1; TomTom (UK & ROI and Europe) iOS apps v1.29
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gstenson Frequent Visitor

Joined: 23/10/2002 09:53:59 Posts: 267 Location: Lincolnshire, UK
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Privateer Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: 30/12/2002 17:36:20 Posts: 4921 Location: Oxfordshire, England, UK
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am Post subject: Alturion and the UK |
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Thanks gstenson ,
Perhaps I should have looked a little longer, eh? _________________ Robert.
iPhone 6s Plus, iOS 14.0.1: iOS CamerAlert v2.0.7
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Dave Frequent Visitor

Joined: Sep 10, 2003 Posts: 6460 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am Post subject: Alturion and the UK |
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Unfortunately I've been trying to get a review copy in talking to the main director in the company, but still no luck. It would seem like Alturion don't want their products reviewed. Oh well! |
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DomLof Occasional Visitor

Joined: 03/12/2002 15:28:37 Posts: 24 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am Post subject: Alturion and the UK |
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With the imminent release of CoPilot 4.0 in the UK. It'll be interesting to compare the two products.
As they seem to have many common features.
I certainly would not fork out 499 euros on the software without an inpartial review of it (especially as it has not got street numbers for the UK maps).
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dejongj Regular Visitor

Joined: 06/02/2003 23:17:38 Posts: 118 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am Post subject: Alturion and the UK |
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Dave,
That is quite unbelievable these days that you can't get a review copy especially with this site behind you...
The cynic in me makes me think that Alturion knows something about the use (perhaps lack of it) in the UK....
It is a shame as I am with DomLof on this, I would be hesitant to shelf out 499 Euros without an independent review by a team who knows the other products as well...
But TMC and those 3d views, wonder whether the clouds shows the lightning and rain as well
Ah well perhaps CoPilot 4.0 will be the one for me... _________________ http://www.oooia.com |
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dejongj Regular Visitor

Joined: 06/02/2003 23:17:38 Posts: 118 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 8:04 am Post subject: Alturion and the UK |
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Alturion seems a very interesting product for the pocketpc especially it is anounced that the next version will have TMC support and just take a look at the fantastic 3D view...
Unlike Navigon which currently supports TMC, Alturion has got map-data for the UK as well as part of the European package.
I was wondering whether anyone is using Alturion in the UK on a daily basis as I don't hear or see anything about this product on this website.
Cheers,
Jean-Paul _________________ http://www.oooia.com |
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cfcjohn Occasional Visitor

Joined: 19/08/2002 19:26:24 Posts: 20 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:14 pm Post subject: Alturion in the UK |
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I have been beta testing Alturion for over a year in the UK (on a daily basis).
I can confirm it has street numbers and TMC in the UK.
I've been a Destinator and TomTom user in the past.
There's limits to what I can say about the product (NDA), but I wouldn't put the many hours into testing if I didn't think the product had a future or didn't have respect for the people I deal with at Alturion.
I understand there isn't a UK distributer at the moment, but it is wrong to suggest there are sinister reasons behind not releasing the product to the UK market.
I'm a big fan of TomTom which as a fully paid up user was always had space on my 2210 SD card.
I no longer feel that is necessary with the current Alturion advancements, not withstanding that I'm running beta versions, which is high praise indeed for Alturion.
3D in Alturion is ahead of anything else, I'm happy with 2D though, and the Alturion icons for POI's is far ahead of anything else. You want to see Pizza Hut, Mcdonalds,Shell,Esso etc etc then you see the real icons on the screen.
Don't forget you get a PC version as well so it is MS Autoroute + TomTom in one package. I plan journeys of 700+miles to France. Believe me on the PDA this isnt comfortable. With Alturion you can plan the route on the PC and even export the map +/- x miles either side of the route to the PDA so you don't need huge maps. |
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swing Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: Nov 04, 2003 Posts: 2225 Location: Bedfordshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Can I ask some questions of you, although I appreciate you are under an NDA....
Is the product (with TMC support) still in Beta? Are you aware of a planned release date?
Although it supports POIs, I would envisage a lot of people would want to use it with speed camera databases - do it support this builtin?, as I don't think many (if any) of the third party POI tools support Alturion.
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cfcjohn Occasional Visitor

Joined: 19/08/2002 19:26:24 Posts: 20 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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It is a constantly evolving product so there will always be a beta version, which is what I test. The TMC version has been on general release in Europe for a while now.
There isn't a UK distributor at the moment but you can buy direct from Alturion.
There is an SDK and third party developers have added a POI detector that is/can be used for speed cameras and that is now shipped with the product AFAIK. This uses the data in ascii files that can be downloaded from many sites, has graphics of cameras and relevant speeds on the map, audible warnings and the ability of adding cameras to the database via a button press.
It also supports receiving TMC data via GPRS (mobile phone) but there isn't a server at the moment for UK data - but the infrastructure is there for it (it is done for Holland and Belgium).
You can see all the software etc on www.alturion.com including packs with the TMC receiver. |
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swing Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: Nov 04, 2003 Posts: 2225 Location: Bedfordshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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cfcjohn wrote: | The TMC version has been on general release in Europe for a while now. | Thanks - I think the confusion is caused by the webpage which talks about TMC only showing TMC data for Holland / Belgium, and seems to purposefully have UK missing from the map. If you have any method of feeding directly back to Alturion, I would recommend they update this page, or at least mention UK TMC support somewhere on the website!
Quote: | There is an SDK and third party developers have added a POI detector that is/can be used for speed cameras and that is now shipped with the product AFAIK. This uses the data in ascii files that can be downloaded from many sites, has graphics of cameras and relevant speeds on the map, audible warnings and the ability of adding cameras to the database via a button press. | Supporting the POI-Sync databases (there's one here, and 1 or 2 other major sites would be a bonus over this (which does sound interesting) - again, if you can feed this back that would be good.)
Also, if you could persuade Alturion to provide a review copy to PocketGPSWorld so that they can review the product that would also be good.
Steve |
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swing Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: Nov 04, 2003 Posts: 2225 Location: Bedfordshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Final question for now, how big is the full UK (or England and Wales if it can be split down further) on the PDA - ie what the typical space requirements to hold the full 2 country data on the PDA. I appreciate the comments about being able to store +/- x miles from the route, but I travel a fair bit, and hence would want a fairly large base area always available.
Thanks,
Steve |
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gpasfan1002 Occasional Visitor

Joined: Jan 11, 2004 Posts: 13
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hi John,
I am intrigued by the fact you use the alturion software. I have been reading for the last few days and collecting information abou it before I go and buy it. However I'd appreciate your help in making the right decision. I have questions regarding the map data used by Alturion. Teleatlas has many problems in the mapdata in the UK and since Alturion uses teleatlas I was wondering if the maps are accurate and the search with post code works? Also how do you find the voice quality and the instructions and are there any wav files or its all computer generated.
Thank you
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gdornez Occasional Visitor

Joined: May 22, 2004 Posts: 1
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Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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As Belgian user of Alturion 5.3 Pro with TMC I can only suggest you follow the forum at http://www.pocketpc-club.nl/
The forum is in Dutch and you have to register but it's free. |
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Petekk Regular Visitor

Joined: Mar 06, 2004 Posts: 137
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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:52 am Post subject: |
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Anyone actually use alterion v6. If does it support tmc for the UK.
As far as I can see, support files for TMC are included for every country except uk. |
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