New specs cameras on A588 (Lancashire)

niftyandy · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 12, 2006 Posts: 2

The A588 between Lancaster and Hambleton (approx 20miles) is now festooned with average speed cameras, ranging in speed limits from
30-60mph....there are about 30 of them.
They were installed and working a year ago but nothing in the PGPSW database is showing up when using either the CamerAlert app or the Garmin PND updates.
Can these cameras be included if possible?
There should have been an update from the council a year ago about these....
or are you just waiting for people to report them?
Surely you cant expect people to report 30 of them to you.
If that's how it works then the DB will fail.
PS - The WAZE DB has them in!
Cheers

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Kremmen · Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2024 4:43 am Post subject:

Yes, we need alerting via accurate location submissions

Unless we know the location, direction and speed we don't have enough info
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MaFt · Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 7:13 pm Post subject:

OK, so from Skippool, through Hambleton up to the 90 degree right hand turn south of Preesall (Burned House Lane) I have added the 60/NSL, 30, 50, 40, and 30 stretches of average speed cams.

After that, Streetview is possibly too old (2022) and I'm not seeing any cameras up to the 90 degree right hand turn (Head Dyke Lane).

Then we get to the 60mph zone and these cameras have been in the database for over 5 years now so I'm not sure why you're not getting alerts for those?

At the end of the 60 zone where it drops to 30 there are no more cameras on that stretch (Streetview 2022), through Stake Pool, up to just north of Fisher's Row.

Where i turns to NSL/60, from what I can find online, there is another average speed zone here but I cannot see the cameras on Streetview (2022) so we may need someone to actually submit these ones. Further north-east Streetview is even older at 2021 - right up to Cockerham.

Moving north from Cockerham through the 40 zone there's nothing on Streetview (2022-2021) all the way up to Lancaster.

So I've added a fair chunk but it would be helpful for yourself as well as other users to submit any missing ones - particularly the long 60/NSL stretch from Fisher's Row to Cockerham and the stretch North of Cockerham up to Lancaster.

PhoenixRise · Spammer Joined: Aug 20, 2024 Posts: 6

it shouldn't be solely on users to report every single camera, especially when there's such a large number. It does make you wonder about the efficiency of the database if it's missing this many. If Waze can stay on top of it, there’s no reason others can’t. Hopefully, they catch up soon.

Kremmen · Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:26 am Post subject:

Google relies on user submissions as well

I don't know about Waze, don't like it, but Google Maps has very few cameras

If you have access to a database or know where one is then please tell
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MaFt · Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:52 pm Post subject:

MaFt · Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:56 pm Post subject:

DennisN · Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:50 pm Post subject:

Y’know MaFt, every time I see posts like these two plonkers are wasting pixels on, I ask myself why you give them the time of day? Honestly, they have no idea and nothing better to do than stick pins in you.
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PhoenixRise · Spammer Joined: Aug 20, 2024 Posts: 6

It's odd that the PGPSW database hasn't been updated, especially if Waze already has them. You'd think with 30 cameras over 20 miles, the council or someone would have flagged it sooner. Relying on users to report all of them seems a bit much, to be honest. Hopefully, they'll get it sorted soon otherwise, what's the point of the database? Cheers!

Kremmen · Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:40 am Post subject:

I don't know how Waze operates

Does it just accept all submissions regardless ?

If so then taking my verifications as just one example, over 75% could be wrong. A lot of submissions I've seen are CCTV, ANPR and other similar furniture. Plus the locations are frequently wrong by hundreds of yards due to the time between spotting a camera and pressing the button

Waze may have more cameras but ours are accurate

We also operate a benefit of doubt system where if we get enough reports of new or missing cameras then they get added. If you have spotted 30 missing cameras in 20 miles then not enough members have submitted them which makes verification even more necessary necessary
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MaFt · Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:49 pm Post subject:

MaFt · Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:50 pm Post subject:

DennisN · Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:02 pm Post subject:

MaFt · Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:23 pm Post subject:

Having a look at the Waze editor now to compare. Quite a lot of the cameras on that stretch were added on 19th August 2024. Some that we have had in the database for 5 years.

A handful were late 2023. But most are recent additions. So it looks like Waze DID have some at the time of the initial post but certainly not all of them.

MaFt

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