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cottonsocks Regular Visitor
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:46 pm Post subject: Importing a route |
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I have a couple of questions about route planning:-
1) Can a route be created in something like Myroute-app, saved as a .gpx file and then imported into a Garmin sat nav, e.g., a Driveluxe LMT-D?
2) If the answer to question 1 is yes and the start of the route is not where you are currently located, how does the route appear on the sat nav? |
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sussamb Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Mar 18, 2011 Posts: 4462 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Yes if the gpx file is valid and like any route if you're not at the start then you'll get directions to it ... but ... and it's a big but ... whether a Garmin or indeed any device will follow the exact route is doubtful, as it will have been created on a different map with different routing algorithms. _________________ Where there's a will ... there's a way. |
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cottonsocks Regular Visitor
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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sussamb wrote: | Yes if the gpx file is valid and like any route if you're not at the start then you'll get directions to it ... but ... and it's a big but ... whether a Garmin or indeed any device will follow the exact route is doubtful, as it will have been created on a different map with different routing algorithms. |
Myroute-App does have different maps available, including Here maps, which I understand are the ones used by Garmin. Would that be likely to resolve the problem of not follwoing the exact route do you think? |
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sussamb Pocket GPS Verifier
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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I can't really predict that, best you could do is try it and see. I use Garmin BaseCamp to avoid those sorts of potential issues. _________________ Where there's a will ... there's a way. |
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PhilHornby Frequent Visitor
Joined: Dec 07, 2006 Posts: 564 Location: North Devon
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Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:33 am Post subject: Re: Importing a route |
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cottonsocks wrote: | 1) Can a route be created in something like Myroute-app, saved as a .gpx file and then imported into a Garmin sat nav, e.g., a Driveluxe LMT-D? |
In the past, not all automotive models were capable of importing a route, but I think they've now (probably) all acquired the Trip Planner "app" which allows this.
However, I'm betting that most will still then recalculate the route, using whichever algorithm you have selected on the unit (Fastest time, shortest distance etc).
So if your aim is to travel via specific places, you should be able to achieve that. However, the route (i.e. actual roads) between your specific places is likely to be decided by the satnav.
In the past, only the Zumo range (and oddballs such as the Nuvi 7xx range) would implement the route as-is. The Zumo definitely still does it. Can anyone shed any light as to the current state-of-play, regarding other units? |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 7122 Location: Reading
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Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:41 am Post subject: |
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I still use Mappoint 2013 for just this.
Yes, the mapping is old but the 'rubber banding', as Suss calls it, works far better. The last time I tried this in Basecamp it kept producing loops taking me back to where I was trying to avoid instead of rerouting.
Once created, Mappoint can create a GPX that works on the Garmin.
I find this perfect for seeing the traffic for the whole of 'my' route. _________________ DashCam:
Viofo A119 V3 |
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sussamb Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Mar 18, 2011 Posts: 4462 Location: West Sussex
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Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:09 am Post subject: Re: Importing a route |
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PhilHornby wrote: |
In the past, only the Zumo range (and oddballs such as the Nuvi 7xx range) would implement the route as-is. The Zumo definitely still does it. Can anyone shed any light as to the current state-of-play, regarding other units? |
All current Garmin devices have the trip planner app AFAIK. As you say, a gpx route imported should visit any hard viapoints but the route between them may not match, but you can always add additional points on the Garmin if necessary. _________________ Where there's a will ... there's a way. |
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BigJohnD Frequent Visitor
Joined: Aug 26, 2007 Posts: 400 Location: Glannau Mersi, Lloegr
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Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:55 am Post subject: |
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sussamb wrote: | I can't really predict that, best you could do is try it and see. I use Garmin BaseCamp to avoid those sorts of potential issues. |
Likewise. Basecamp has its foibles but is !00% compatible! |
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molerat Lifetime Member
Joined: Jul 06, 2007 Posts: 202 Location: Very North of the Border
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Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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cottonsocks wrote: | Myroute-App does have different maps available, including Here maps, which I understand are the ones used by Garmin. Would that be likely to resolve the problem of not follwoing the exact route do you think? | Garmin may well use Here mapping but the latest Garmin UK is nowhere near as up to date as Here from some time ago. _________________ Garmin Drive 51LMT-S EU
(TT One V3 512MB + RDS TMC UK&RoI v1005 now retired, dead due to withdrawal of manufacturer support) |
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sussamb Pocket GPS Verifier
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Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Really? Garmin are generally a few months behind as that's how long it takes to prepare, codify, check etc the Here map but that should be all, what do you mean by some time ago?
Where I know things have changed they've always been in the following map update, and in a couple of cases in advance of roads being opened! _________________ Where there's a will ... there's a way. |
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JoeGriffin Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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molerat wrote: | Garmin may well use Here mapping but the latest Garmin UK is nowhere near as up to date as Here from some time ago. |
I beg to differ! I have made a number of changes to local roads in Here's Map Creator and they have appeared on the Garmin maps at the next update. (One was a road which was marked, incorrectly, as unpaved and the other was a highways change to block a left turn- to prevent the road being used as a rat-run. _________________ ... Joe
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molerat Lifetime Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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The 2 new roads I reported to Garmin just after 2020.10 came out. One has been changed over 2 years and was on Here mapping at least a year ago and the other changed this May and is on Here maps. _________________ Garmin Drive 51LMT-S EU
(TT One V3 512MB + RDS TMC UK&RoI v1005 now retired, dead due to withdrawal of manufacturer support) |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 5:07 am Post subject: |
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I get the impression from the above posts that if map errors or changes are reported they are acted on.
So any long standing errors may not have been reported ? _________________ DashCam:
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