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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man


Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2019 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Dennis, your'e old enough to have been playing with God when he was a lad. |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 7223 Location: Reading
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Ah, the old references:
Before the dead sea reported sick
Before Pontius took flying lessons _________________ DashCam:
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DeLorean Lifetime Member

Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 315 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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DennisN wrote: | DeLorean wrote: | As I wanted to retain as many of the useful features my 910 had I've just bought a GO 940 to replace it  |
Where from? I ordered one a fortnight ago on Amazon and seller cancelled it because they felt the stock item (only one) had a dodgy battery. I didn't fancy the e-bay adverts. |
I bought mine from ebay.
As long as you check out the sellers rating and buy it through PayPal with a credit card you'll be fine.
The batteries are easy to replace if faulty, but if it's been used regularly the battery should still be in pretty good shape.
My 910's still have all their original batteries.
There are lots of YouTube videos that show you how to dismantle and change the batteries. _________________ 🔸🔸 Currently using TomTom GO 940 & Locus Map 🔸🔸 |
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DeLorean Lifetime Member

Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 315 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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...when the Loch Ness Monster was a tadpole  _________________ 🔸🔸 Currently using TomTom GO 940 & Locus Map 🔸🔸 |
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DennisN Tired Old Man


Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14907 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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I don't do e-bay and I don't do PayPal and I had a letter two months ago saying that as I hadn't used my credit card for many months, they were cancelling it.
The batteries are easy to replace if you use MikeAlder (I did). Not that I care because my TT is always plugged into the ciggy thing. _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
Two of them are obesiting!! |
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DeLorean Lifetime Member

Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 315 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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DennisN wrote: | I don't do e-bay and I don't do PayPal and I had a letter two months ago saying that as I hadn't used my credit card for many months, they were cancelling it.
The batteries are easy to replace if you use MikeAlder (I did). Not that I care because my TT is always plugged into the ciggy thing. |
You could try here: https://www.totalsatnav.co.uk/tomtom-2-c.asp _________________ 🔸🔸 Currently using TomTom GO 940 & Locus Map 🔸🔸 |
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DennisN Tired Old Man


Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14907 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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550, 750, 950 all say Out of stock. _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
Two of them are obesiting!! |
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DeLorean Lifetime Member

Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 315 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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DennisN wrote: | 550, 750, 950 all say Out of stock. |
I've noticed since the WNRO the demand for X40 and X50 models has risen dramatically.
CEX appears to have the 540, 740, 550 & 750 models available.
https://uk.webuy.com/ _________________ 🔸🔸 Currently using TomTom GO 940 & Locus Map 🔸🔸 |
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DeLorean Lifetime Member

Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 315 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting if you diddle Navcore v9.541 into an x10 or an original TomTom One 1st Edition (both of which use the SiRFstarIII GPS chip) the satellite lock issue disappears and they appear to work perfectly.
This demonstrates that it’s an issue with the Navcore and not the SiRFstarIII GPS receiver hardware/firmware... which could be easily fixed if TomTom gave a toss. _________________ 🔸🔸 Currently using TomTom GO 940 & Locus Map 🔸🔸 |
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rwbaldwin Occasional Visitor

Joined: Dec 24, 2012 Posts: 55
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 11:18 am Post subject: |
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DeLorean wrote: | Interesting if you diddle Navcore v9.541 into an x10 or an original TomTom One 1st Edition (both of which use the SiRFstarIII GPS chip) the satellite lock issue disappears and they appear to work perfectly.
This demonstrates that it’s an issue with the Navcore and not the SiRFstarIII GPS receiver hardware/firmware... which could be easily fixed if TomTom gave a toss. |
They are starting to send out emails with the message...
"Due to the GPS Week Number Rollover (WNRO) that occurred on 6 April 2019, your navigation device will no longer be able to navigate.
We are working to see if an update is possible and will contact you when there is news." |
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DennisN Tired Old Man


Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14907 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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Do you get that email after your satnav has navigated you to the end of the earth? _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
Two of them are obesiting!! |
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justbrowsing Frequent Visitor

Joined: Nov 10, 2011 Posts: 679
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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DennisN wrote: | Do you get that email after your satnav has navigated you to the end of the earth? |
"Turn around when possible"  |
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DeLorean Lifetime Member

Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 315 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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rwbaldwin wrote: | DeLorean wrote: | Interesting if you diddle Navcore v9.541 into an x10 or an original TomTom One 1st Edition (both of which use the SiRFstarIII GPS chip) the satellite lock issue disappears and they appear to work perfectly.
This demonstrates that it’s an issue with the Navcore and not the SiRFstarIII GPS receiver hardware/firmware... which could be easily fixed if TomTom gave a toss. |
They are starting to send out emails with the message...
"Due to the GPS Week Number Rollover (WNRO) that occurred on 6 April 2019, your navigation device will no longer be able to navigate.
We are working to see if an update is possible and will contact you when there is news." |
I received the e-mail last week... I doubt very much they'll do anything to fix the issue... they're just fishing for sales.
I received my 940 this morning... it's a great device and a worthy replacement for my 910s.
It's such a shame that TomTom decided to only manufacture cheap featureless units that Google Maps on your phone will do for free. _________________ 🔸🔸 Currently using TomTom GO 940 & Locus Map 🔸🔸 |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 7223 Location: Reading
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Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 5:45 am Post subject: |
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I've refrained from using a phone for heavy duty navigation tasks.
I did try it some years ago and the heat build up and battery life suffered. I remember taking it out of its car holder and putting in my top pocket and having to immediately take it out as it felt like it was burning me. _________________ DashCam:
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DeLorean Lifetime Member

Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 315 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu May 02, 2019 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Okay... after reading some articles and running a few test of my own, here’s my take on why different legacy TomTom devices are having differing issues after the WNRO.
The problems reported range from the clock reading 00:00, issues locking onto satellites and/or locking on to any satellites at all.
1) The x10 range, TomTom ONE 1st edition and others use the SiRFstarIII (SiRF Technology ) microprocessor GPS chip.
This chip does not have an issue with the WNRO and outputs the data string as an NMEA string.
The problem lies in the Navcore software not being able to correctly interpret the NMEA string since the WNRO change.
The could be easily resolved by TomTom if the Navcore were tweaked accordingly.
2) Other older TomTom devices use the GL1 and GL2 (Global Locate now Broadcom) microprocessor GPS chip and possibly others.
Unfortunately these GPS chips do have a problem with the WNRO and do not output an NMEA string.
As the issue with these devices lie with the GPS receiver’s firmware/hardware it’s very doubtful whether this is will be resolved.
After successfully running a modded 9.541 Navcore on my old TomToms with SiRFstarIII GPS receivers proves that there is no issue with the SiRFstarIII GPS hardware and TomTom could resolve the issue quite easily.
On newer Navcore devices just replacing the GLGPS file with one included in the official 9.541 Navcore resolves the issue.
If TomTom are unwilling to fix the issue I’m sure a cunning monkey somewhere with the appropriate programming skills will modify the problematic Navcores.
Global Locate powered devices will most likely remain bricked. _________________ 🔸🔸 Currently using TomTom GO 940 & Locus Map 🔸🔸 |
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