Driver Faces Fine For Speed Camera Warnings

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A driver has been reported for warning other motorists of an upcoming speed camera van.

It turns out that one of the vehicles he waved at contained a police officer. He was reported for obstructing the police.

An officer for Devon and Cornwall Police tweeted: "Driving waving frantically at our unmarked vehicle to 'warn' us of the camera van on the A30 is not the smartest move. The excuse was that he does not like speeders but he does not want them being 'caught' either!"

Alerting others about mobile cameras is an offence punishable by a maximum penalty of one month's imprisonment alongside a possible fine of up to £1,000.

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arfurdent · Regular Visitor Joined: Mar 05, 2006 Posts: 116

so golden rule is to never warn other motorists of a potential obstruction

sussamb · Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:47 pm Post subject:

No idea how you infer that Rolling Eyes

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Isn't it part everybody's civil responsibility to encourage other road users to slow down if they think they may be driving too fast?

Surfer01 · Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:49 am Post subject:

You are preventing an offence from being committed so how can you be punished for doing that? If you could prevent a murder/robbery/theft/assault is that punishable?
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sussamb · Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:10 am Post subject:

No, you're preventing an offender being caught, just like if you harboured a murderer.
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Surfer01 · Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 9:31 am Post subject:

M8TJT · Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:19 am Post subject:

If the crime had 'not yet happened', then they wouldn't have been caught.

Your hypothesis holds no water at all. A crime can happen without a culprit being caught. Not being caught does not indicate that you are not an offender?

How many times have you exceeded the speed limit (inadvertently, of course) without being caught. You have still committed the offence regardless, and thus you are 'an offender'.

With a speeding offence caught on camera, the crime is being committed at the time, not 'about to happen'.

RobBrady · Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:28 am Post subject:

In the Highway Code, under rule 110, it states that drivers should "Only flash your headlights to let other road users know that you are there".
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Surfer01 · Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:29 am Post subject:

RobBrady · Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:31 am Post subject:

I find it an extremely grey area.

Some forces apparently say that posting the location of a mobile camera on social media is an offence while others advertise the positions of their cameras regularly through local newspapers.
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sussamb · Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:37 am Post subject:

It's really simple, if you're warning someone of a speed camera it's because you're assuming they're speeding, therefore you're hindering the potential prosecution of someone breaking the law, that is an offence.
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DeLorean · Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:40 am Post subject:

Like others have said...
Surely if you're caught speeding the objective has failed as it didn’t stop the offence being committed... more about generating revenue me thinks?
As the motorist was indicating another driver should slow down and/or beware of a hazard (regardless of why) they should be commended by the police and not charged with an offence.
In Slovakia (where I drive a lot) there are apps which report live police camera locations, the radio broadcasts them and people flash oncoming drivers... everyone slows down and are wary of their speed for a reasonable time afterwards. Slovakia only has a few fixed speed cameras.
Slovak police can hide behind signs, hedges and bins etc so there’s a real risk of being caught if you speed... and they will move their location thought the day.
Because of this drivers really do slow down obeying the speed limits through an entire area, town or village.
They also have days where the police openly forewarn drivers of a mobile speed camera blitz and everyone behaves impeccably.
I have to be honest and say I generally see less speeding in Slovakia than I do in the UK... that’s not to say their driving is better though!
Surely this is the whole point of speed cameras... to slow drivers down not catch them having already committed the offence?
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Kremmen · Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2019 10:40 am Post subject:

If I see a car speeding towards a Kojak with Kodak I just have a quiet chuckle.
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