EU - Possible Deal on Access to Galileo PRS

Darren

Whilst Brexit talks continue, news is emerging of a possible deal on access to Galileo's public regulated service (PRS) signal. If true this could mean our police and armed forces will retain guaranteed access to the secure encrypted signal that is PRS, a deal that surpasses anything offered to other non-EU countries.

Galileo's Public Regulated Service (PRS) is an encrypted navigation service for governmental authorised users and sensitive applications that require high continuity, it's resistant to spoofing and jamming and is intended for use by EU Member State government authorised users, e.g. emergency services and police.

However there has been no movement on allowing UK firms to build parts of the secure Galileo systems post-Brexit.

Source: guardian.com

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Kremmen · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:32 am Post subject:

If we've already provided funding and expertise, and they cut us off, I would think some form of legal action for a refund wouldn't be out of order.

Maybe they realise this.
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sussamb · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:52 am Post subject:

Not sure that would work. It's us pulling out of the project by leaving the EU.
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martinwinlow · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 15, 2005 Posts: 11

Given that SpaceX's Starlink constellation will (hopefully) be operational by 2020 and that they will almost certainly offer as good, if not better, location-finding facility, I'm wondering if this isn't all a bit moot...?

Allan_whoops · Frequent Visitor Joined: Feb 18, 2006 Posts: 369

The problem with requesting a refund is that UK companies benefitted the most from the project. Are you going to ask their employees for their salaries or shareholders for their dividends?

vulcanben · Occasional Visitor Joined: Apr 07, 2006 Posts: 17

If we are not allowed use of the Galileo PRS we should reduce the Brexit 39 billion pounds so far agreed.
Then if we can't bid to build parts etc. then we should reduce our payment even further.

sussamb · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:56 pm Post subject:

That money has nothing to do with this. It's the money we have to pay for projects etc we're committed to up to the point of leaving. It's like you saying you won't pay the mobile phone bill that you're contracted to because your TV has been removed.
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vulcanben · Occasional Visitor Joined: Apr 07, 2006 Posts: 17

Galileo PRS is a project we are committed too, and the deal was we put money in in the expectation that we would be able to use the end product. In your example we put down a deposit on the phone and now the EU is making brexit an excuse to go back on the deal. Can you explain why brexit changes our collaboration? Does the EU never collaborate with anyone outside the EU?

sussamb · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 5:38 pm Post subject:

We're committed to up to a point. It's an EU project. If we leave we can't have access to it. Simples.

Course the solution is not to leave ... then all would be roses again Smile

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druck · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 7:57 pm Post subject: Hard-ball

Looks like playing hard-ball over this issue with the EU is starting to pay off. If only we were doing this in the rest of the negotiations.

M8TJT · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:40 pm Post subject:

We are playing softball, not hardball. We have 'given away' far too many things already, with the EU not appearing to give any. (OK then. Name something significant that they have then)

sussamb · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 8:55 pm Post subject:

Well they're unlikely to give anything that breaks the four freedoms, in the current parlance 'we can't have our cake and eat it'. That was obvious from the start but it's taken until now for our weak government to wake up to that fact. Any deal we get won't make either remainers or leavers happy, which is why the vast majority now want to vote on the deal.
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M8TJT · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:34 pm Post subject:

We don't want a half baked deal. We want OUT. That's what I voted for. That's what the majority voted for.That's what was on the voting form. So get out of the EU mess.

DennisN · Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:38 pm Post subject:

As a minority voter, I weep.
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M8TJT · Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:50 am Post subject:

But you always were a minority of one Dennis

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