New Mobile Phone Penalties Affect SatNav Use Too

Davidwf · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:20 am Post subject:

so, a 2 way radio where you HAVE to hold it and HAVE to keep a button pressed whilst talking is OK .... that's CRAZEEEE ...especially when it exempts minicab drivers who are, well, let's just say ARROGANT at the best of times - apologies in advance to those of you who are they, I just report as I see !

mistersaxon · Last edited by mistersaxon on Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:26 am; edited 1 time in total

Looks like this is the new design paradigm for cars, especially electric vehicles though the new Audi should get a mention too. Are you completely stuck then as they will be unusable while the car is running but can't be accessed when the car is parked and key out? So the only solution will be to head to a Tesco's car park which is not public roads in order to take a call, adjust your satnav, etc etc.

Good job Siri lets me dial etc without using my hands - pity she can't control the satnav. Also a pity that phone calls override the display of satnav apps requiring interaction with the screen to get control back. I'd like that to be a selectable option, not the default - I rarely need to stare at the phone number of my caller for an extended period (or until the screen shuts off, requiring another interaction to restore service). Best solution? Hang up immediately.

But if I have a nice paper map on the seat next to me that's absolutely fine to fiddle with as long as I'm not "being dangerous". Good, excellent. What a crock of s..tuff this legislation is as it has been reported. I'd assume it can't be that badly constructed and this is a misunderstanding by the media at large but actually its looking like just another excuse to extract fines from motorists. Satnavs save lives - making them unusable is not in my interests as a road user.
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sussamb · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:24 am Post subject:

M8TJT

mistersaxon

M8TJT · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:38 am Post subject:

OK then. Another suggestion, switch the phone to answer phone and don't fiddle with the satnav function whilst driving.

waterhead37 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Aug 10, 2006 Posts: 1

Garmin employ lobbyists in the USA and perhaps also in the UK. I imagine they will have tried to persuade the government to go easy on dedicated units…

mistersaxon · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:46 am Post subject:

Nthkentman · Occasional Visitor Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Posts: 8

So, as using a device while driving (Without a proper hands-free installation/devise/mount) is attracting points and fines, where exactly does that leave the Police drivers in single manned vehicles who drive along using their microphone (Push to Talk) latched to their shoulder?

Surely a case of driving without due care and attention as their attention is divided between driving and using that device.

sussamb · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:50 am Post subject:

@mistersaxon

At the risk of repeating myself sat navs do not fall under the legislation as they are not capable of receiving AND transmitting.
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sussamb · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:51 am Post subject: Re: Double Standards yet again

Daggers · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:02 am Post subject:

People seem to be getting very agitated here over very little. As far as I understand it, the legislation has not changed at all, and is still the same as it always has been. The only thing that has changed is that the penalty for committing the offence has increased from 3 points to 6 points, and therefore bans are likely to be more frequent.

Or have I misunderstood?
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Nthkentman · Occasional Visitor Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Posts: 8

Nthkentman · Occasional Visitor Joined: Sep 18, 2009 Posts: 8

Two way radios are excluded.[/quote]

Err... Depends on your point of view on exclusion
AA site... Quote
Exemptions
You can make an emergency call to 999 or 112 as long as it’s unsafe or impractical to stop first.
You can use a two-way radio but not any other device that sends or receives data.

Definitions
Handheld device – something that "is or must be held at some point during the course of making or receiving a call or performing any other interactive communication function".
Device – "similar" to a mobile phone if it performs an interactive communication function by transmitting and receiving data.

sussamb · Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:12 am Post subject:

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