Man Prosecuted For Using Phone Sat Nav

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Eighteen year old Ciaran Morrow from Lurgan in Northern Ireland has been prosecuted for using the sat nav on his phone - he was seen with his fingers on the screen while driving.

Morrow told Craigavon Magistrates Court that he was unaware what he was doing was illegal.

He was fined £75, received three points on his license and also had to pay a £15 offender's levy.

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sussamb · Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:45 pm Post subject:

Often felt this was a grey area. You can legally change screens etc on a satnav but not on a phone, unless it can be shown that in doing so you weren't in full control of your vehicle. Would be good to know if the phone was actually in his hand in which case it makes more sense.
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pcaouolte · Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:25 pm Post subject:

I was under the impression that it was legal to touch a phone screen if the phone was in a holder, for example to confirm a camera position when using CamerAlert. Is that not the case?
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M8TJT · Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:43 pm Post subject:

Probably not. And don't eat a sandwich and have a fag at the same time or its "Take him out and shoot him".

marksfish · Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 8:37 pm Post subject:

I read somewhere that if you have your phone in a holder you are able to answer a call on your phone (keeping in holder and just pressing the answer button)
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sussamb · Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:09 pm Post subject:

Seems its okay if in a holder

https://www.gov.uk/using-mobile-phones-when-driving-the-law
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Kremmen · Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:06 am Post subject:

Starting to fall into place now. If not in a holder then it's just as dangerous as texting and should be hung, drawn and quartered.

I mainly travel round the local area on buses, now I have a free pass, and I'm amazed at the number of drivers I see from the raised vantage point with an active, lit phone in their left hand, down by the gearstick/handbreak.
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DennisN · Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:38 am Post subject:

I didn't know this, though......

glenjarnold · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 23, 2008 Posts: 6

Heaven forbid. They'll be nicking us for driving 5'9" from a cyclist next...oh...hang on a minute, what's that copper doing with a tape measure?

DennisN · Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:45 am Post subject:

Is that one inch less than a new metric foot? Very Happy

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martinwinlow · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 15, 2005 Posts: 11

The offence prosecuted, in the case, was 'Using a *hand-held* mobile phone *or similar device* whilst driving'. If it's in a cradle - no offence, no matter how much button-pressing was going on. There is, of course, a raft of other offences one could commit interacting with even a docked mobile in satnav mode (or any other, FTM). The most likely is 'not having proper control of a vehicle' which works for any scenario including the 'famous' case from a few years back that for some bizarre reason hit the headlines - a woman prosecuted, as the Sun put it, 'for drinking from a water bottle'. No mention of nearly driving off the road and mowing down a waiting queue of bus passengers, etc.

Quite why journo's can't be bothered to report the *useful* facts from such cases is beyond me. Perhaps they are generally too stupid to grasp the finer points of the law?

navtrav · Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 9:26 am Post subject:

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jonrome · Occasional Visitor Joined: May 06, 2006 Posts: 24

Seen? I hope they have photographic evidence. After all, there is no mobile footprint for a satnav app as far as I'm aware.
Many years ago I was accused of going through a red light by a single traffic policeman in a car which was parked where he couldn't see the traffic lights & then he tried to say I was distracted looking at the map alongside me. I pointed out that I'd been off the edge for more than 10 miles but he didn't seem impressed. Just after brownie points I suspect. A call from my boss(I was driving a Post Office vehicle) to the Chief Constable resulted in it being dropped.
That's when I started to lose my faith in the police.

sussamb · Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:25 pm Post subject:

Why I now have a dashcam. Evidence of my own should it ever be needed.
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