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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15311 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:02 pm Post subject: Is a 40mph Motorway Coming Soon? |
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Just outside of Bristol the M32 changes into the A4032 as it approaches the city. The A4032, like many city roads, has a bus lane. So why, I hear you ask, is this newsworthy? Well, the bus lane is currently being extended another 800m so that it will actually be on the M32 and during the roadworks there will be average speed cameras monitoring the reduced 30mph limit.
Some people involved in the works say that the average speed cameras may be remaining after the works have finished and that there are talks of keeping the speed limit at 40mph instead of the standard 70mph that motorways in the UK have.
Source: Bristol Post
So, could the M32 be the slowest motorway in the country or do you think a 40mph limit is unlikely? Let us know your thoughts!
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 7141 Location: Reading
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Depending on the traffic density 40mph could work.
In 2004/5 they widened the M25 from junctions 12 to 15 (M3 to M4), just under 10 miles. During that work they put 40mph cameras in place.
In all the 17 years I drove the M25 from junctions 11 to 15 that was the only 2 years the traffic actually flowed and I got home sooner than when it was a 70mph stretch. _________________ DashCam:
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marksfish Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Jun 25, 2005 Posts: 802 Location: Sandy, Bedfordshire
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm, I seem to remember the A58M Leeds inner ring road being a 40mph zone and am sure it is still the case. It was 40mph when I moved there 14 years ago, so not sure Bristol will be first _________________ Garmin Drivesmart 51 LMT-D Europe |
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box2k2 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Aug 23, 2006 Posts: 20
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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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marksfish wrote: | Hmmm, I seem to remember the A58M Leeds inner ring road being a 40mph zone and am sure it is still the case. It was 40mph when I moved there 14 years ago, so not sure Bristol will be first |
I live in Leeds. It still is (if it's not shut overnight for works). |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff
Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15311 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Ah, but that's only an honourary motorway as it's still an A-road ;)
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14902 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:11 pm Post subject: |
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When the M32 first came into existence, it was an A road (but bore the name M32).
It has had a 40mph limit for years from start northwards to beyond the first junction "For Safety Barrier". Nobody ever does anything to the safety barrier! _________________ Dennis
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lenfish Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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MaFt wrote: | Ah, but that's only an honourary motorway as it's still an A-road ;)
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The only motorway (honorary or otherwise) I've ever driven on with an exit to the right! |
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JockTamsonsBairn Lifetime Member
Joined: Jan 10, 2004 Posts: 2777 Location: Bonnie Scotland (West Central)
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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lenfish wrote: | The only motorway (honorary or otherwise) I've ever driven on with an exit to the right! | M8 J15 Westbound (J15 Eastbound has the on ramp joining from the right hand side!). _________________ Jock
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njsmith Occasional Visitor
Joined: Sep 26, 2005 Posts: 5 Location: Bristol, U.K.
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:27 am Post subject: M32 |
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I have read suggestions in relation to the re designation of the M32.
It has been suggested that when the bus lane is complete and the motorway regulations can't apply because of the bus lane, the M32 will be designated a Trunk Roand and no longer a motorway.
Nick
Bristol UK
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jonl60 Occasional Visitor
Joined: Jul 24, 2006 Posts: 3
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:37 am Post subject: |
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You Know, as I get older I think all speed limits should be lowered and don't policemen get younger.
With an ageing population you would think that the average reaction time would be going up. Eventually, when the whole network has been re-surfaced, all the average speed systems will just be left in place and maybe journey times will be reduced. |
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topgazza Frequent Visitor
Joined: Aug 16, 2004 Posts: 589 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:30 am Post subject: |
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Its a strange thing. I drive the M25 in both directions from the M3 or M4 to Hornchurch in Essex. If I drive at say,60, in the busy sections I get lit takes less time to complete the journey. Obviously sometimes it's a crawl but the principal of not doing the speed limit or above applies. There is no doubt in my experience that variable speed systems work and even the dreaded 50mph long long zone on the M3 gets me from Basingstoke to the M3 in a more realaxed and seemingly quicker way.
The problem I think is all the various drivers doing different speeds with all the associated concertina effects and panic breaking. I would say driving too fast and too close is the main cause of general motorway congestion and frustrating motorway journies _________________ TomTom 720
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Juniper Occasional Visitor
Joined: May 30, 2006 Posts: 28 Location: Bristol
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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DennisN wrote: | When the M32 first came into existence, it was an A road (but bore the name M32).
It has had a 40mph limit for years from start northwards to beyond the first junction "For Safety Barrier". Nobody ever does anything to the safety barrier! |
And I seem to be the only person that does 40mph within it (fortunately I am never there in commuting times) and most people do more like 60mph. |
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topgazza Frequent Visitor
Joined: Aug 16, 2004 Posts: 589 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Same on the M3. I set cruise control at 50 and just watch. A good half of the traffic move past me gradually and often at some speed. I think the concept of average speed cameras is too much for some to grasp _________________ TomTom 720
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stanwhite_snr Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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lenfish wrote: | MaFt wrote: | Ah, but that's only an honourary motorway as it's still an A-road ;)
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The only motorway (honorary or otherwise) I've ever driven on with an exit to the right! |
M25, Junction 5, clockwise. The M25 takes the two left lanes, and the A21 takes the right two... |
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14902 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:12 pm Post subject: Re: M32 |
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njsmith wrote: | I have read suggestions in relation to the re designation of the M32.
It has been suggested that when the bus lane is complete and the motorway regulations can't apply because of the bus lane, the M32 will be designated a Trunk Roand and no longer a motorway.
Nick
Bristol UK | The M32 WAS originally a trunk road. When it was redesignated a motorway, it fell to me to rewrite the spreadsheet analysing trunk roads and motorways in the County of Avon. My thinking is that with a bus lane they could simply end the motorway a bit earlier, or why bother? They had a bus lane on the M4 into London for long enough. _________________ Dennis
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