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Rick-uk · Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 9:56 pm Post subject:

My installation is also on the internal storage, do not have any apps installed in the external card.

I have never moved it so it must have installed there by default
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entwood · Regular Visitor Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Posts: 117

Had a thought (dangerous I know .. Smile

) is there any way of directly downloading the .apk file and trying an install that way ?? Just wondering if the google store/auto-install might be causing the problem and a direct install might work ??

westcatford · Occasional Visitor Joined: Apr 07, 2007 Posts: 16

Can I endorse the solutions posted by Duddy and Asperion?
I have a Blackberry Priv running Marshmallow 6.01 with an SD card formatted as internal storage.
On initial installation of Cameralert it would not run at all and crashed immediately.
Following their suggestions I checked the installation location and found that the app had installed to the SD card. Having moved it, it now runs, albeit it seems to be a bit flakey and still crashes occasionally.
Given that one of the touted advantages of Marshmallow is the ability to use a (suitably fast) SD card as internal storage, I suspect that many will accept the option without knowing all the implications. From my experience, to unscramble it requires a system reset. Could I therefore add to the encouragement offered to the developers to make the default install location intermal memory? I haven't had the 'location' issue with any other app.

merlindriver · Lifetime Member Joined: Feb 18, 2008 Posts: 17

Well its a strange one and no mistake. I have an Xperia Z2 with a water damaged camera and a new Z5 to replace it. Both run on Marshmallow and CamerAlert runs fine on the Z2 but crashes immediately on the Z5. On both it loaded into internal memory and I have tried forcing it to the SD card on the Z5 but no joy. I even tried loading it using the apk fike from the Z2 backup I made and that made no difference. A real shame as its a good app - but at least I can use the old phone as a Sat Nav.

entwood · Regular Visitor Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Posts: 117

Well, the results of some research/playing is basically "not good" ... firstly, found and downloaded a .apk which was placed on internal memory and installed .. result .. crashes the same as ever, browsing the internal memory and comparing to the old phone wher it was installd on the SD card .. files/folders certainly missing. It would appear that sony have "removed" adoptable storage from Android 6 (marshmallow) and the OS simply will not read the SD card for programmes, it only accepts limited forms of data, mp3, mp4, jpg etc etc. The .apk "appears" to try and copy files to the SD card by default, and fails, which is why it continually crashes.

The solution, it seems, is that the .apk needs rewriting so that the default location of all files/folders is internal storage not SD card, and despite several folk asking for this it would appear the developers are unwilling to help.

I might be wrong, and will apologise profusely if I am, but despite numerous folk having the same problem, thats the way it looks to me. Sad

merlindriver · Lifetime Member Joined: Feb 18, 2008 Posts: 17

Just had a look and it does seem that the app puts a small amount of data on the SD card. It seems odd that the 2 phones are both running the same version of Android and on e is ok but the other isn't. I might try the Z5 without a card to see what happens.

AliOnHols · Pocket GPS Verifier Joined: Oct 15, 2008 Posts: 1942

I know I'm going to get flamed but why should the onus fall upon the app developers? They make a couple of quid, at most, for each app sale and you expect them to support you for life.?

The real money is being made at the Andriod/iThing/Google/phone manufacturer level. They should be the ones making sure that your purchases are carried through from generation to generation. But they don't give a damn because they know that people shall keep paying big bucks for the latest "must have" and then blame the little guys when it doesn't work.

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MaFt · Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:25 pm Post subject:

This *is* a nightmare though. It works on vanilla Android Marshmallow (6) so it must be something that Sony and One Plus are doing to Android in their modifications.

The crash reports aren't helping and, without a device to work with directly, it's very difficult to try resolve anything.

As has been said, it's something that is still being looked at.

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entwood · Regular Visitor Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Posts: 117

Post by merlindriver gave me an idea .. so power phone off, remove SD Card, power phone on, download and install from google play..... result ...

Crashes just like before .. Sad

merlindriver · Lifetime Member Joined: Feb 18, 2008 Posts: 17

MaFt · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:34 am Post subject:

Just to clarify, we don't force any location for install.

It's set to 'auto'

entwood · Regular Visitor Joined: Jul 31, 2005 Posts: 117

Now, I admit to knowing nothing about writing .apks or developing programmes for the android platform, however, I do know a little about computers and programming ( the latter being some 30 years ago mind) and this is annoying me to say the least, so a little research and by downloading and investigating the .apk, I have so far, found a couple of things that "might" (??) affect the running of the app.

As MaFt says above, under the AndroidManifest.xml file the install is set to "auto", however, a few lines down are a couple of android permission statements ...

'android.permission.ACCESS_FINE_LOCATION'

and

'android.permission.WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE'

Now, and this is a question not a statement, although the app installs to an auto location, and it appears to install without error, when it runs it crashes, could this be because the "permissions" are trying to write to external storage which Sony seem to have blocked ?? Thus when the attempt to write to the external storage fails the app fails ??

I have looked at 2 other apks that have installed and seem to run correctly, and neither of them have these two lines, although, to be honest, they are very simple apps ....

Just thoughts, and as I said, my programming days were PASCAL / DELPHI and I've forgetton 99.9% of that as well !!

Regards

E

EDIT : Since writing this further reseach has discovered that "FINE_LOCATION" has nowt to do with file location but is actually a gps location !!

BUT ... I also found this little gem ... which appears to be relevant ...

https://developer.android.com/training/permissions/requesting.html

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/33162152/storage-permission-error-in-marshmallow

Hope this helps in some small way

MaFt · Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 1:25 am Post subject:

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