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Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:33 am Post subject: Getting rid of Average Pseed on Go 1005 Live
Will anyone rid me of this pestilent feature!!!
Insted of telling me what speed I'm going, which is useful, my Tom Tom Go switches to AVERAGE speed the moment it detects and average speed zone. This is WORSE THAN USELESS. Worse than, because it got me a ticket.
It tells you your average speed since you entered the zone - could be 30 miles back!. But the cameras measure your average between each camera. So it's perfectly possible for the Tom Tom to read 55mph (average since you entered the zone) but you have averaged 58 mph between the last two cameras.
Also I need to know what speed I am doing - accurately. I have cruise control all I need is an accurate speed to set it by (press the button at the speed you want to go at, then up or down to adjust a bit). All I need is an accurate speed read out and all I GET is an average from the moment it detected the zone. This is normally nonsense. Brake from 75 to 50 as you enter the zone - average reads 68, Speedo 50. Go around a roundabout in an average zone (A616) You hit 65, it says 38
Enough the point is made, This feature should be OPTIONAL but I cannot turn it off!!. I want my proper speed back like I had on the XL IQ until they "updated" that. There has to be a way.
Joined: Jun 12, 2005 Posts: 368 Location: Mörsdorf, Germany
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:41 am Post subject:
Don't you have a speedometer in your car? That was designed and installed to tell you how fast you are going.
There is always a bit of a time lag with the speed feature on a satnav device. Just because your TomTom calculates the average speed doesn't mean you have an excuse to blame it for being wrong.
It's your car and your responsibility to drive within the law which means looking at your car's speedometer
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:06 am Post subject:
Coo, that was an epic rant, wasn't it.
If you're that concerned, keep your speedo reading lower than the posted average speed and you won't get a ticket.
In the mean time, if you were to ask without the rant, you might get the answer along the lines of what you want is not possible on a TT. That's the way they designed it. But CA on a smartphone works just as you might expect, and you can reset the average speed whenever you want. Can you not reset on the TT?
Typical of TT these days to replace a useful feature with useless one. I don't have a modern TT so can't help you but I do hope that you find a way.
However, I do have a very low tech work around which I use on my motorbike. The TT Rider displays the current speed but it is too small to read through my visor if it is raining or very sunny. When it is safe to do so (I.e. on a long, straight, fast road with no other traffic and not within a Specs zone) accelerate to the required speed (30, 40, 50, 60 or 70) using the TT and hold that speed for a few seconds then glance at the speedo and make a mental note of the reading. On my motorbike I have used Tippex to make small "dots" on the speedo as reference points. _________________ Garmin Nuvi 2599
Android with CamerAlert, OsmAnd+, Waze & TT Europe.
TomTom GO 730, GO 930, GO 940 & Rider2.
SatMap Active 10 & 20.
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14902 Location: Keynsham
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 9:07 am Post subject:
I long ago discovered that TomTom's average speed calculation behaves like this - average since it detected the start of an average zone. That was near Bristol, when the zone was frequently congested at the start, giving my start speed as 15mph, but freeing up as I got in there.
Mind you, I'm a bit surprised at you getting a "meaningful" representation of TT average speed zones - it's a good day when they actually have their speed cameras operational at the same time as the roadworks have speed cameras operational!
1. Disable the speed cameras from TomTom - you've already got evidence that they aren't much use.
2. Install the PGPSW database. Sadly the 1005 won't do average speed calculations from the data, but at least the locations will be accurate and up to date.
3. Alternatively, get CamerAlert for iPhone or Android for the complete solution - the average speed zones are recalculated for every camera. _________________ Dennis
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: Getting rid of Average Pseed on Go 1005 Live
briandavison wrote:
................Also I need to know what speed I am doing - accurately. I have cruise control all I need is an accurate speed to set it by (press the button at the speed you want to go at, then up or down to adjust a bit).............
Surely as the driver of a vehicle with cruise control, it had the optional extra of a speedo.
Why not observe the speed limit signs and set speed limiter / cruise control to that posted limit.
Or you could be daring and use the right foot and brain to control the speed of vehicle manually to keep within posted limits.
TomTom PND's may have their faults, but they cannot be blamed for driver errors!
_________________ Mick
Go 1005 in need of resuscitation
GO 950 Dead,
GO 920 Dead
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