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walkerx Lifetime Member
Joined: Oct 21, 2009 Posts: 494 Location: South Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:30 pm Post subject: nulink 2390 help - ex tomtom user |
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I finally took the plunge and got a Garmin nulink 2390 as was sick of the constant issues i was having with my 3rd tomtom live device.
So far I'm happy, but do miss some of the features of the tomtom (mainly how things are displayed)
But how do you load custom poi onto the device and anyone know when the camera database will become compatible with the device
thanks in advance |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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What makes you say the PGPSW database isn't compatible? |
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walkerx Lifetime Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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PaulB2005 wrote: | What makes you say the PGPSW database isn't compatible? |
because when you look at the compatible garmin devices the nulink's are not listed
i've now managed to locate the poi loader on garmin's website - so downloaded that ready |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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It might just be that the list hasn't been updated.
Give it a try and report back. |
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walkerx Lifetime Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Paul,
I've got the camera's installed - put them onto a 2gb MicroSD using the POI Loader.
The poi loader will only convert the mp3 files, but it seems that the nulink will not play these when approaching a camera, unless i need to make some other changes
update: found this post Pocket GPS World Database - Garmin NuLink 2390 and downloaded the sox files and placed in the poi loader folder
still working out how to get the audio working for it instead of the beeps
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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See this thread for tips on using the WAV file version if your unit doesnt support MP3. You'll also need the sox.exe file as detailed in that thread.
Thanks for the feedback. Your help is appreciated. |
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walkerx Lifetime Member
Joined: Oct 21, 2009 Posts: 494 Location: South Yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:18 am Post subject: |
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just another update
using the speed zoned complete with wav files, creates a file of 19.2mb for the poi
transferred this to the device and it's now showing the poi on the screen and also some spoken alerts for some cameras but not all.
for the ones it notifies about these can be quite a distance from the actual camera (noticed upto 1/2 mile away) - it will report the first camera in a sequence and then nothing for the rest of them..
These issues could be a cause of the simulator, but I won't know until monday if this is the same in real-time during a trip. |
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walkerx Lifetime Member
Joined: Oct 21, 2009 Posts: 494 Location: South Yorkshire
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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update: not sure it my pc having a day-off but the link just goes to another forum not an actually thread
I'm off for a drive shortly so going to give it a test, hope there some cameras on the route
update: this seems to be working - i'm just looking at using camera manager to create directional warnings as i've noticed that in some areas it is advertising the speed for the other side of the motorway.
I've got another test tomorrow where i'll be going a different way so will see how that picks up as well |
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Kremmen Pocket GPS Verifier
Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 7122 Location: Reading
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:30 am Post subject: |
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How big ?
I've just run POILoader and created a GPI file from the Speed Zoned Complete and it is 7,197Kb
This includes all cameras including BMP and WAV but not the PMobiles _________________ DashCam:
Viofo A119 V3 |
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walkerx Lifetime Member
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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if i use the standard download uk zoned complete using wav with chime, this is a 17.3mb download
if i use the standard download uk zone complete using wav without chime, this is a 9.6mb download
If I could get mp3 audio working then it would reduce the size by quite a bit, but all that happens is you just get the standard beeps
i've also been advised by garmin the best image for icons is 16x16 @ 16/32 bitmap |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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The difference in file sizes is easily explained.
If each warning file without chimes consists of roughly three seconds of speech and each one with a chime consists of three seconds of "bongs" and then three seconds of speech, then the second ones will be twice the size. (a wav file is uncompressed audio, so every second takes the same amount of storage space whether it is quiet, loud or just silence)
Does the file size matter at all?
The whole package is very small compared to a map or a TTS navigation voice, so unless your unit is really cramped for space, I wouldn't worry about it.
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Those 16x16 pixel icons sound very small. Even TomTom (who don't often ADD features) are expanding support from 22x22 to 24x24 and even larger icons. _________________ "Settling in nicely" ;-) |
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walkerx Lifetime Member
Joined: Oct 21, 2009 Posts: 494 Location: South Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 10:50 am Post subject: |
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nope the size doesn't matter, it just getting the right setting for me, which is trial and error as performing some tests at home using the simulated route
the wav files work in some situations up to the first camera in a mobile safety zone, then after that it uses the standard garmin beeps
in regards to the bitmaps for poi this is what i asked Garmin
Quote: | Only one query regarding the POI bitmap graphics
Is there are restriction limit on the size either 22x22 or 44x44 |
and this is the reply i got back
Quote: | Thank you for contacting Garmin Europe.
Garmin devices can display custom images. Having the right image
resolution for custom images will give you the best display.
Though almost any BMP file is supported, the best size for the bitmap
files is 16 X 16, 16 or 32 bit BMP files.
The images will display in other formats, but this format will give you
a clear display. The custom images can be used for specializing
waypoints to display on your device. |
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walkerx Lifetime Member
Joined: Oct 21, 2009 Posts: 494 Location: South Yorkshire
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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been messing with the different size images and the best is 22x22 on the nulink - i created a 44x44 bitmap and it only showed the top left quarter quarter of image
for a 16x16 it didn't display it most of the time and when it did it was tiny |
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kaydee2 Lifetime Member
Joined: Jan 26, 2006 Posts: 38 Location: Hertfordshire, UK
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Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Very interested to see this topic - I don't suppose you could help and put an 'Idiot's Guide' to getting the database onto a 2390?
I have POI loader ready - have used in the past to load onto previous units, but they didn't need the tweaking that the 2390 seems to require!
I'm not the most tech savvy of people and don't really want to screw up the 2390!!
Fingers crossed!!
Cheers. |
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