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RobBrady Frequent Visitor

Joined: Jul 21, 2004 Posts: 2718 Location: Chelmsford, UK
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:00 pm Post subject: SatNav Leads to Home Repossession |
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A satnav has been blamed for a US homeowner having her home repossessed. The First National Bank of Wellston mistakenly cleaned out the Ohio woman's house and changed the locks while she was on holiday. She had to get back in through a window.
An excuse given by the bank was that it was lead to the house by a satnav. The grass had not been cut around the three bedroom house so it appeared as if it were the target property. The correct property turned out to be the one opposite.
The homeowner, Katie Barnett, whose possessions were either sold or dumped, has billed the bank for $18,000, but they are insisting on her providing receipts for everything claimed.
The Huffington Post carried out a review of court records in 2012 which uncovered more than 50 lawsuits filed against foreclosures on the wrong properties. It seems that Ms Barnett may be in for a great deal more recompense than just the price of her possessions.
Was it the really the satnav's fault? Although the fashionable thing is to blame the satnav, weren't these sort of mistakes common using good old-fashioned maps?
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IanS100 Frequent Visitor

Joined: May 05, 2008 Posts: 870 Location: Southport
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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I don't remember ever using a Sat Nav that pointed me to either side of the road, that's where observation & common sense are supposed to take over from a dumb machine! _________________ Galaxy Note 4 / TomTom GO : CamerAlert : CoPilot |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff


Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15389 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Some of them do say "The destination is on your left" (or right).
However, this is nothing to do with a satnav, it's an idiot who didn't bother to check they were at the right address before carrying out something that (one assumes) involves a tonne of paperwork in order to be legal.
For the bank to blame the satnav is utter nonsense - they should at least admit to human error - or, for once be honest, and say 'yep, we messed up!'
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DennisN Tired Old Man


Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14907 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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My TomTom ALWAYS points to the left or right side of the street. I long ago learned not to believe it. _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
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IanS100 Frequent Visitor

Joined: May 05, 2008 Posts: 870 Location: Southport
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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DennisN wrote: | My TomTom ALWAYS points to the left or right side of the street. I long ago learned not to believe it. |
I don't remember that, you learn something new every day  _________________ Galaxy Note 4 / TomTom GO : CamerAlert : CoPilot |
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ivanmx6 Occasional Visitor

Joined: Jul 28, 2006 Posts: 6
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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:38 am Post subject: |
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This has nothing to do with a Satnav error - it got them to the right place didn't it?
It's the dumb bank employee who couldn't read house numbers correctly. |
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IanS100 Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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ivanmx6 wrote: | This has nothing to do with a Satnav error - it got them to the right place didn't it?
It's the dumb bank employee who couldn't read house numbers correctly. |
If it's anything like the UK there probably wasn't any number on the house. Wandering up & down a road trying to work out house numbers is the bain of my life, I'd hate to be a postie _________________ Galaxy Note 4 / TomTom GO : CamerAlert : CoPilot |
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Privateer Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: 30/12/2002 17:36:20 Posts: 4921 Location: Oxfordshire, England, UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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The SatNav drove the lorry to the house and then proceeded to empty the goods from the house to the lorry!
Quote: | The homeowner, Katie Barnett, whose possessions were either sold or dumped, has billed the bank for $18,000, but they are insisting on her providing receipts for everything claimed. |
In the land of the compensation claim, for the bank to quibble a mere $18,000 (mere for a bank anyway) is stupid - they should have paid up. I'm surprised that Katie Barnett hasn't put a claim in for millions of dollars for mental anguish or upsetting the cat/dog/goldfish (delete as appropriate).  _________________ Robert.
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derryuk Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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We live in a blame (not my fault) culture sadly.
I was listening to radio5 the other day where a lady was complaining that her daughter at uni had been taken advantage of by a payday loan company and she had had to bail her daughter out of debt to the tune of thousands of pounds.
And I'm thinking, hang on a minute, if the daughter is smart enough to get into uni surely she is smart enough to understand payday loans?
Then again perhaps the daughter is smart and taking advantage of her Mum who isn't!
Perhaps it's just me!! |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff


Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15389 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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You don't need to be particularly clever to get to uni these days... :/ |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man


Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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And it seems that you don't have to be much cleverer when you come out either. |
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DennisN Tired Old Man


Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14907 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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IanS100 wrote: | DennisN wrote: | My TomTom ALWAYS points to the left or right side of the street. I long ago learned not to believe it. |
I don't remember that, you learn something new every day  |
Yesterday I took delivery of my new van which has a proprietary media centre, which includes TomTom satnav. The nice lady announces "You have reached your destination. It is on your left/right." She's only been wrong once so far, but then in a mere 500 miles of driving over these two days, I've hardly pushed the boundaries of destinations.  _________________ Dennis
If it tastes good - it's fattening.
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:56 am Post subject: |
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IanS100 wrote: | DennisN wrote: | My TomTom ALWAYS points to the left or right side of the street. I long ago learned not to believe it. |
I don't remember that, you learn something new every day  |
NAV2 TomToms (upto and including the GO950) do not say "on your left" or "on your right" at the destination.
NAV3 and NAV4 models (GO1000 and later and VIA etc.) do. _________________ "Settling in nicely" ;-) |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:56 am Post subject: |
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IanS100 wrote: | DennisN wrote: | My TomTom ALWAYS points to the left or right side of the street. I long ago learned not to believe it. |
I don't remember that, you learn something new every day  |
The "NAV2" TomToms (upto and including the GO950) do not say "on your left" or "on your right" at the destination.
NAV3 and NAV4 models (GO1000 and later and VIA etc.) do. _________________ "Settling in nicely" ;-) |
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