Scotland to Get 135 Miles of Average Speed Cameras

MaFt

The Scottish Transport Minister, Keith Brown, has announced that average speed cameras will be placed along the A9 for a 135 mile stretch between Dunblane and Inverness.

The current safety issues are, by all accounts, caused by cars trying to pass trucks on the mostly single carriageway road and there are fears that the 40mph limit imposed on trucks, and to be enforced by these cameras, will cause more accidents as drivers try to get past the slower vehicles. There are, however, proposals to make the A9 a dual carriageway from Perth up to Inverness with a view to improving safety.

But, as we see all too often, speed cameras are seen as a 'quick fix' to poor road design and the first average speed cameras will be in place from early 2014 and the whole stretch should be fully operational from summer next year.

MaFt · Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:15 pm Post subject:

Thanks to @dorsetwurzel on The Twitter and forum user Quinny1 for the tip-off for this.

Quinny1 · Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:54 pm Post subject:

More accidents will result in these cameras, as has been posted, HGV's are limited to 40mph on single carriageways, and car drivers will be chomping at the bit to get past an HGV adhering to the law for fear of getting points on their licence.

Cameras saving lives?

Don't think so.

MaFt · Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:16 pm Post subject:

I think it's silly that they admit that dual-carriageway is needed to make it safe yet they still insist on putting cameras up to make it safe... when they just admitted that that isn't what's needed!

MaFt

M8TJT · Posted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:34 pm Post subject:

But cameras are quite a bit cheaper. Apart from that, it is easier to pass a truck doing 40 than a truck doing 56, so if the cams can limit the truck speed, it should be easier and safer to pass them.

Discuss

rf065 · Lifetime Member Joined: Oct 10, 2005 Posts: 80

The traffic on the A9 up to Inverness has become a whole lot worse over the last few years as the big supermarket chains opened up stores in the area when before there were no large supermarkets.

Travel up the A9 now and all you see are Tesco arctics etc, this road would be a lot safer if all the supermarket freight was sent by railway, the road was never meant for convoys of arctics. Although taking them out of the equation still leaves the summer tourist traffic with convoys of overladen cars and caravans clogging the road. It really should have been upgraded to a M/Way years ago.

Russ

worried · Lifetime Member Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 74

Are they going to use ANPR to determine what speed the trucks can drive at?

the do gooders will object to that just as they have done down south, its against the speeding truck drivers civil liberties to check his vehicle

MaFt · Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:21 pm Post subject:

worried · Lifetime Member Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 74

try this website

https://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/human-rights/privacy/cctv-and-anpr/index.php

the do gooders seem to forget that recently several cases have been solved with the disputed files

Quinny1 · Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:40 pm Post subject:

rf065 · Lifetime Member Joined: Oct 10, 2005 Posts: 80

Quinny1 · Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:22 pm Post subject:

Not rude, just pointing out what most people who shout about the dirty, smelly, slow lorries, don't seem to realise, which is the obvious.

No trucks = no food in supermarkets. Simples.

rf065 · Lifetime Member Joined: Oct 10, 2005 Posts: 80

M8TJT · Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 10:59 pm Post subject:

Ask Alex fish to do it. I'm certain he will be able to afford it if he's quick enough before his oil drys up Twisted Evil

s3dbw · Regular Visitor Joined: May 07, 2004 Posts: 203

The A9 is going to be a nightmare to travel on when this comes into force. As already pointed out the HGV's will be restricted to 40mph and they will start to convoy together and the vast majority of cars will not overtake for fear of exceeding the average speed! as the majority of people dont seem to understand how these things work. We will end up with huge tailbacks of traffic following convoys of HGVs at 40mph. As usual the Scottish Government is addressing symptoms and not the route cause.

As someone who travels this route regularly I reckon the only time to be on the road when this comes into force will be either late evening or very early morning, which in fairness is the best time to travel it even now

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