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adamwolfe Lifetime Member

Joined: Apr 26, 2007 Posts: 101 Location: Scottish Borders
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Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:29 am Post subject: New Variable Speed Zones M90 J3 to FRB both Directions |
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Taken from http://trafficscotland.org - 17 gantries similar to M25 which will be showing variable speed limit signs on approach with possible live speed camera mounted on reverse side. Drove through this stretch on Friday late afternoon southbound and there are road markings/graduations immediately after some/all gantries. Mway was busy so couldn't be sure which ones. Just thought I'd let you know - lets be careful out there.
Fife Intelligent Transport System (Fife ITS)
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The Lower Fife Area which assimilates north-end road network of the new Forth Crossing will see the launch of a new 'Intelligent Transport System' (ITS) on the M90 in Lower Fife from Tuesday 4th December 2012. This will create a dedicated bus lane and also carriageway variable speed limits which will be used during periods of congestion to help smooth traffic flow, reduce congestion and help make journey times more reliable.
The System features 17 new motorway overhead gantries linked to traffic sensors embedded to the carraigeway, which will automatically detect the build of congestion and vary the mandatory speed limit to help keep drivers moving.
This is the first time such a system has been used in Scotland. Similar “Managed Motorway” schemes have been successfully implemented in England on sections of the M25 and M42.
Transport Scotland is undertaking an information campaign with leaflets and radio media broadcasts in the build up to the launch and further information can be found at www.FRCits.info.
Transport Minister Keith Brown said:
"The Forth Replacement Crossing continues to progress on time and on budget and I’m delighted that we can now begin to use ITS to help manage and improve traffic flow and provide buses with a dedicated lane."
“Along with the Park and Ride facilities at Halbeath, we hope this will make travelling across the Forth by public transport an even more attractive option for commuters and prove environmentally friendly and sustainable."
“Safety is of paramount importance and the system requires no specialist driver knowledge or additional skills. I’m keen however that drivers take a few moments to look at the website or pick up a leaflet at local libraries and petrol stations to familiarise themselves with the new system."
“Of course, the main part of the Forth Replacement Crossing – the new bridge itself – is still under construction but this new ITS will help traffic management prior to the Crossing opening in 2016."
The improvements to the M90 and M9 and including ITS, brought about by the build of the new Crossing, will continue to be implemented in stages, with Phase 1 (M90 north) due in December 2012 and Phase 2 (M9 & M90 south) due in early 2013.
ITS will help to manage the flow of traffic on the M90 on the approach to roadworks associated with construction of the new crossing until opening in 2016.
On completion of the Principal Contract in 2016, the ITS will then extend over a length of 22km from M90 Halbeath junction in Fife, over the new Crossing to West Lothian and the M9 Newbridge Junction. This will also include a new operating regime for both the Forth Road Bridge and the new Crossing, catering for situations when high winds affect the Forth Road Bridge. _________________ Adam |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:31 am Post subject: |
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Please don't take the road markings to mean anything...
I've seen dozens of gantries with variable speed limit SIGNS and white lines on the road behind them, but no cameras installed.
Everyone should please only report actual camera boxes in the gantries (which are usually easier and safer to see from the other carriageway).
It gets quite boring going to "verify" non-existent new cameras when it turns out to be just a sign gantry. _________________ "Settling in nicely" ;-) |
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adamwolfe Lifetime Member

Joined: Apr 26, 2007 Posts: 101 Location: Scottish Borders
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Andy_P wrote: | Please don't take the road markings to mean anything...
I've seen dozens of gantries with variable speed limit SIGNS and white lines on the road behind them, but no cameras installed.
Everyone should please only report actual camera boxes in the gantries (which are usually easier and safer to see from the other carriageway).
It gets quite boring going to "verify" non-existent new cameras when it turns out to be just a sign gantry. |
Good points Andy_P.
As these gantries are not common (might be a first) in Scotland, this was more for awareness and, as you say, there is certainly the need to find out where the - if any - cameras actually are.  _________________ Adam |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff


Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15388 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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We're getting them on the M62 as well...
Lots of people submitting cameras at every gantry even though they don't all have them. The easiest way to submit them is to look for the cameras on the other carriage way as they are easy to see as you approach the rear of the gantry. Just remember to select 'Other side' in CamerAlert :D
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falkirk81 Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: Jul 07, 2006 Posts: 1651 Location: Newcastle, England, UK
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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I recently travelled from Newcastle to Montrose and saw the first set just to the North of the FRB when heading Southbound, which had already been submitted previously and I verified it there and then.
You can't see them (easily) until you pass the gantry, so luckily I wasn't driving and could look closely as we passed under the gantry.
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