Subscription Renewel POLL

mostdom · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject: Subscription Renewel POLL

On behalf of Dennis because someone would do it eventually.

I also take an opportunity to ask the Life Members to answer if they would willingly, give up their perk to aid the site.

Please keep this thread short and brief and submit your opinions in the discussion on this thread
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M8TJT · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:03 pm Post subject:

This options in this poll are pointless. The Lifetime Membership IS being reviewed/revised, so the poll has no relevance, unles it includes the options under consideration. Sorry I banged on so long about it.

malc77 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jul 11, 2006 Posts: 27

[quote="M8TJT"]This options in this poll are pointless. The Lifetime Membership IS being reviewed/revised, so the poll has no relevance, /quote]

I completely agree.

burtonian · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:33 pm Post subject:

Ditto (with all respect to mostdom who took the time to generate it).

Given the other thread, we're in danger of confusing the issues and missing some arguments. I agree the perk should be revised. As a lifer, I have already said that I'd willingly donate to the cause. Any thought of completely withdrawing the perk from existing lifers may result in ill-will and bad reputation. We'd be better off voting on agreed options put forward by Da Management after taking into account views expressed on the original thread (it ought to be stickied and referred to in next newsletter).

DennisN · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:42 pm Post subject:

Serves me right for being a technological incompetent. If I had been able to create the poll myself, the question was to be "Should Free Lifetime Membership be withdrawn from existing Lifers" with only existing Lifers requested to vote. My view was that Darren saying it shouldn't be withdrawn was coming from someone who is not a Lifer and I expected to get a big majority of Lifers willing to forego it. The only NOs I expected was to be those awarded to people who only ever submitted in order to get the freebie and gave up once they'd got it.
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mostdom · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject:

There are two questions being raised which would require two separate polls. However the overriding subject is the need to revise or remove the life membership!

DennisN · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:41 pm Post subject:

Well, what do I know, I'm just a thick old man! Anyway, if everybody on the site voted we'd get the idea I suppose - sort of democratic if you let the plebs vote, innit?
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oldfogy · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:31 pm Post subject:

The only problem with this poll is that it does not show if lifers are voting or if just people who normally pay so therefore possibly expecting either a reduction or freeze in the current charges.

Maybe a second option should have been included asking if the voter is a life member or not "Yes/No"

I would have thought PGPW need their opinions, more than ours.
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DennisN · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:59 pm Post subject:

Yes, but like I said I didn't (and still don't) know how to create a Poll, but that was my intention - I filled it all in but when I pressed GO it started arguing with me, so I gave up!

I'm a life member, for what that info is worth, have been since Feb 2006 (my joining date - I had previously been submitting cameras by email and had not registered, so I benefitted like all the others from the award for previous submissions when charging was introduced). They introduced charging just as I was wondering how the hell to make a donation without getting into Paypal. They didn't even show an address where I could have sent a cheque.
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mostdom · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:10 pm Post subject:

Andy_P · Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:16 pm Post subject:

I have been away for a few days, so I missed all the discussion in the main (now locked) topic about charging.

I'm currently wading through all 13 pages of it (and so far have no inkling as to why it will end up locked!), but as soon as I heard about this poll I was hoping to vote in it.

But having now seen it, I now feel it is far too simplistic to be of any use at all. It doesn't even ask the original question DennisN was hoping to ask.

Therefore I don't see how anyone can use it to justify their particular point of view. It would need several questions and each would need to be far more precisely worded. If the poll system cannot manage that, then any research of opinion needs to be done another way.
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BigPerk · Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:44 pm Post subject:

Yes, I thought it a shame that the other thread was locked too. I also think that the focus has been almost entirely on the 'Lifer' issue, with Life Members (rightly) having the biggest say, given that their status is probably protected to some extent by the original/current offer terms.

But no one (apart from the Management) really knows what part of the revenue problem this particular issue actually causes - it was really just raised by an OP with an 'off-the-cuff' question. As Darren said, the real bummer is the downturn in the PND market. Other good suggestions were made in the other thread (sounds a bit like the 'Other Place'!) which sounded useful, and if it hadn't been first derailed, and then locked, maybe more helpful ideas might have been made.

But it seems the time for member suggestions has passed. Maybe the issue goes rather deeper. We shall soon know.

If this seems slightly OTT, then that's because this is the only place left to make the point!
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mostdom · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:46 am Post subject:

I have chosen to lock this thread as well as I don't believe there is any benefit to continuing the topic here. Sorry! Sad

Not sure if it will kill access to the poll but hey. So I have copied Darren's final comments from the other thread to here as well.

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