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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:00 pm Post subject: UK's speed cameras, where they're on and where they're not |
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Some interesting data, courtesy of the BBC and their PostCode Lottery series, reveals which speed camera partnerships have the largest percentage of their speed camera arsenal active, and which don't.
Cumbria, West Mercia and Sussex take the lead with 100% of their cameras active. Gwent, Leicestershire and London have approximately 50% of their cameras active at any one time and bringing up the rear are Derbyshire, Staffordshire and Thames Valley have a lowly 12% or less of their cameras are in use at any one time.
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Shame they didn't tell us which are active and which are not. Unless you live in Sussex etc. |
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14902 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm. But is that speed cameras or speed camera boxes? From my past experience there is a difference ("they" don't have cameras in every box). For example (and my geography is not yer top ability) does West Mercia include M42? _________________ Dennis
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Privateer Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: 30/12/2002 17:36:20 Posts: 4918 Location: Oxfordshire, England, UK
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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M8TJT wrote: | Shame they didn't tell us which are active and which are not. |
Yes, however things change and they could swap the cameras around. If you caught caught I don't think the plea of "well that camera was supposed to be inactive" would help you much.
So we might as well treat every camera as active, like they do in Cumbria, West Mercia, and Sussex!
Anyway, cameras are only for safety and not for revenue!
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scarymonkey Lifetime Member
Joined: May 09, 2007 Posts: 454 Location: Worcestershire
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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DennisN wrote: | does West Mercia include M42? |
West Mercia is Worcestershire, Herefordshire and Shropshire. The M42 camera area is either West Midlands or Warwickshire where the variable limits and cameras are. _________________ Vince Marsters |
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Pieman1972 Lifetime Member
Joined: Jan 17, 2006 Posts: 68 Location: Waterlooville - Hants - UK
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Presumably you did notice the date of that report:grin: |
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ddavenpo Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:58 am Post subject: What Percentage cameras Active ? |
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Well I drive around the country a lot and always checkout every Gatso and Red Light camera I go past (when going the other way of course) and I would say that at least 90% are empty almost all of the time so would question this as highly suspicious data (ie police propaganda). On the other hand I also agree that they do move them around and that the really are trying to catch you as much as they can so you have to treat them all as in use anyway. They hold all the cards.
Re the Gatsos they are putting up by the hundreds on motorways (aka 'Variable Speed Control' areas) these are at least as empty if you look which you can in most sections (again going the other way) but again you can't afford to take the risk.
On the subject of police forces and areas though - is there a link or other data anywhere which defines where the areas and borders are ? |
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george57l Regular Visitor
Joined: Jan 17, 2006 Posts: 73 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Was there any more data than in your summary above, and of so can we have a link to the original story/data, please? Thanks. |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: What Percentage cameras Active ? |
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ddavenpo wrote: | Well I drive around the country a lot and always checkout every Gatso and Red Light camera I go past (when going the other way of course) and I would say that at least 90% are empty almost all of the time |
How can you tell? Are you saying it's obvious from the outside? _________________ "Settling in nicely" ;-) |
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pcaouolte Frequent Visitor
Joined: Dec 27, 2006 Posts: 998 Location: South Lincs, UK.
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Yes, its obvious from the outside if a camera is loaded into the box. Look at the window that the camera looks out of and you can see the lens. It's easy enough to see from the opposite side of the road whilst driving. _________________ Paul |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man
Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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pcaouolte wrote: | Yes, its obvious from the outside if a camera is loaded into the box. Look at the window that the camera looks out of and you can see the lens. It's easy enough to see from the opposite side of the road whilst driving. | But the subject of empty boxes has been discussed at length here . The decision has been made, so it's pointless trying to identify empty boxes, however easy. "When you are going the other way" So you know the box on the other carriageway is empty, but get caught by the one on your carriageway that isn't Good result eh |
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pcaouolte Frequent Visitor
Joined: Dec 27, 2006 Posts: 998 Location: South Lincs, UK.
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Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2012 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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M8TJT wrote: | ... it's pointless trying to identify empty boxes, however easy. "When you are going the other way" So you know the box on the other carriageway is empty, but get caught by the one on your carriageway that isn't Good result eh | Try not to be quite so antagonistic. Andy_P asked if it was obvious from the outside if a box contained a camera. I answered his question. I really don't care if you think that the exercise is pointless. _________________ Paul |
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