Villagers Set Up Fake Speed Camera

Darren

A resident in the Nottinghamshire Village of Ompton has installed a fake speed camera on private land in an attempt to curb the speed of traffic in the 40mph limit.

Costing £250, the fake speed camera has been sited to the side of the busy A616. Council officials say they are powerless to act because it is on private land although they did state that the land owner would be liable if an accident occurs and the fake camera is cited as a factor.

Interestingly, I don't recall officials saying they'd be liable in the event of an accident where a real speed camera was cited as a factor?

Source: BBC.

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sussamb · Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:40 pm Post subject:

Guess it will only stop speeding in one direction Confused

Gurubarry · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 16, 2012 Posts: 22

That is really interesting! If a council Official really did say that , and he can be checked to see where and how he arrived at this opinion (Held by many motorists to be true,) that the sudden braking before a speed camera is dangerous, then a case for removals or better still signposting the cameras is really launched ?

M8TJT · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:47 am Post subject:

Bratters · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 09, 2009 Posts: 6

The lack of road markings are a clue but as most speeders are local its effect will be limited anyway.

rkm_hm · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:33 am Post subject: Fake Speed Camera

Is it going to be included in the speed camera database?

Do we need a new category: Gatso@fake? People who don't know it's a fake are sure to report it.

This one has obviously received publicity, but I wonder how many more fake ones there are, which everyone believes to be genuine?
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unwanted · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jan 31, 2006 Posts: 34

BBC News: councillor admits Embarassed

owners liability if accidents are caused by fake speed cameras http://bbc.in/yfmH3q , yes its actually in the video clip he really did say that... so that'll apply to all speed cameras fake or not then?... Very Happy

rkm_hm · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:53 am Post subject: Re: did he say that?

grafit · Occasional Visitor Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 3

Just because a Councillor says something, does it makes it legally binding?

I did not think a Councillor had any legal powers or rights over and above us mere mortal citizens. In fact councillors are just civilians like you or me and trying to do good for their local communities.

In my understanding:
If an accident happens, then police investigate and then submit findings to their decision maker. The police decision maker reviews the evidence and either takes it to court or will push it further up the ranks to let CPS(Crown Prosecution Service) decide whether there will be a prosecution or not? Once it gets to court then a Magistrate or judge (depending on court) will deliver a verdict. Only then will a precedent take place that other cases can be tested by.

PW

Looking at the BBC video, the camero appears to have the Gatso company logo on it. I suspect that is infringing their trademark (if it is trademarked).
If so, could have a letter from the company warning of the infringement.

M8TJT · Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject:

So they paint it out. Simples!

si952 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 26, 2006 Posts: 5

If an accident happens?

What sort of accident would they be expecting?

Driver driving too fast? slams on brakes when he sees speed camera and driver behind hits him = two drivers driving too fast and one tailgating or driving too close?

Driver driving too fast? slams on brakes when he sees speed camera and loses control = driver driving to fast for road conditions.

Lets put this into another scenario where the camera happens to be a child who runs into the road maybe as far as 50m up the road and the driver makes the decision to brake and an accident occurs do you prosecute the child?

I am not by anyway in favour of speed cameras but if there is a problem in an area then why not - more police presence on the roads clearing up on offences such as defective lights, seatbelts, phone usage and suspected speeding and when a driver is stopped the vehicle is inspected and the driver given tickets for car defects would deter some of the idiots we have on our roads currently.

si952 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Dec 26, 2006 Posts: 5

Someone down the road needs to get a warning sign made up Very Happy

If I were the local police force I would get a speed camera down there now and start collecting the revenue - if they do this can I have lifetime camera alert membership please for prempting the camera site Very Happy

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