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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:56 am Post subject: CoPilot Live Premium On Sale |
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ALK are marking the release of the iPhone 4S, iOS 5 and Google's latest version of Android, 'Ice Cream Sandwich' with a sale.
Until 31st October, their latest version of CoPilot, Live Premium, is being sold at a discount of up to 30%.
With UK & Ireland available for £19.99 it's a pretty good bargain. CoPilot has occupied a slot in our top five best sat-nav apps for a long time now so if you're looking to invest in a new nav app or perhaps wanted to upgrade to one with European or US mapping, this could be the answer.
More information is available at CoPilot's UK Web Site here. _________________ Darren Griffin
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matthewj Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone know where the Active Traffic data comes from? I can't see the source on the web site. |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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matthewj wrote: | Anyone know where the Active Traffic data comes from? I can't see the source on the web site. |
It's Navteq's Traffic Service. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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matthewj Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, Navteq have a web site that shows off their traffic service. For London, it is showing no traffic at all. Indeed, London is not listed in their European list of cities. Barcelona shows a nice traffic flow grid.
So if that is the data source, and it has nothing for London (inc M25 etc), why would I expect anything in the rest of the country for my £8.99 annual fee?
Given TomTom's troubles, I'm seriously interested in an alternative traffic source, but so far not confident at all! |
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zebsogo Regular Visitor
Joined: May 17, 2008 Posts: 108 Location: London
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:10 pm Post subject: still not impressed |
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As stated "its a pretty good bargain"... But that is only if you think the app is any good... in my opinion it aint that good.. its not very intuitive or user friendly compared to say Navigon.. The traffic and routing suck _________________ --
Navigon 92 Premium Live,TomTom Go 6000,Garmin 2699 LTM-D and a TomTom Go 1005 Live ( For the wife )
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Pirate3000 Lifetime Member
Joined: Jun 26, 2006 Posts: 40 Location: Kent
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: CoPiolt |
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Its funny as the app store for the ipad2 is still at £39.99 not £19.99
Its £19.99 for the iphone version.
what abut the ipad version... _________________ Not Lost Yet!! But Jane is always there to help
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: CoPiolt |
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The iPad price of £39.99 is for the Europe Maps Version not UK & Ireland. The iPhone equivalent for Europe is £29.99 _________________ Darren Griffin |
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smithgt Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:35 am Post subject: POI's in CoPilot |
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I'm used to using TomTom, but at under half the cost when migrating to an iPhone I'm seriously tempted by this offer.
However, can I easily add in custom POI's for my nearest fast food chain etc etc like I could on a TomTom device? |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:39 am Post subject: |
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I'd have to caution that, if you're used to and familiar with TomTom, you may regret switching for your main nav app.
CoPilot is good but, as others have pointed out, not without its issues, routing being one of them.
Whilst it's a great solution that would be ideal for a short term use on hols or for those who have been long term CoPilot users, I'd bite the bullet and pay for TomTom.
The adage 'buy cheap. pay twice' springs to mind. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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brigham Occasional Visitor
Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 8 Location: Scotlandshire
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:03 pm Post subject: CoPilot Issues |
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Hi all, I've been a user of copilot for over a year now and on my second subscription to the service.
I wish I hadn't continued my subscription! I originally paid £19.99 for the app when I first got my iphone4 and upgraded the to live service with another payment of £19.99.
A year later, I get the warning that my subscription for live services is out and I stupidly renewed again for another £19.99!!!
It turns out now that the new premium app is available but there's no option to upgrade for existing customers other than the price that everyone else has to pay. Where's the loyalty back for being loyal to them?
So, anyway... During my grumblings over the last week or so, I've only just noticed that the map is well out of date ( a new section of M74 in Glasgow still has not been added) so I checked the app settings and the map is from early 2010!!!
I contacted them and was sadly informed that the map is only updated once per version. Which forces the issue that if you want an updated map, then you must purchase the latest version, but since they don't offer the latest version at a discount for existing users, they're gonna upset a lot of folk and I for one, am in that bracket.
ALK just lost a loyal customer. The app (version 8) was easy to operate, worked well, live search was helpful - I have no major downers for the software at all and I imagine from my knowledge and use of 8 that the new premium will be a thing of greatness. However, lack of support and loyalty has forced me to rethink my Nav requirements and I'm now considering others.
If you don't yet use copilot and considering it, don't. The support is crap!
If you currently have copilot and hoping for updates, think again! I have an email that states (from the horses mouth) they only update the map once per version.
ALK, if you read this, get your heads out of your arses and try treating existing customers with a bit more respect if you expect to get new customers.
Well, that's my rant over. Feel much better now.
So who can recommend a good Nav app for iphone4??? |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: CoPilot Issues |
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brigham wrote: | It turns out now that the new premium app is available but there's no option to upgrade for existing customers other than the price that everyone else has to pay. Where's the loyalty back for being loyal to them? |
In their defence on this one subject, there is no facility in the appstore for loyalty discounts or other such offers.
As we reported back in June here, theonly option open to ALK was to launch at an introductory price to allow those wishing to upgrade to do at a discount.
It's not ideal but there you have it. I'm not defending them on any other issue but it's important to clarify that the upgrade area is not one they have any control over. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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gpmf Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:03 pm Post subject: Top 5 |
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You mention in your article that copilot is in your top 5 applications. Can you tell me where we can see the list(s) of your top apps etc.
Thanks |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
Joined: 11/07/2002 14:36:40 Posts: 23848 Location: Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: Top 5 |
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gpmf wrote: | You mention in your article that copilot is in your top 5 applications. Can you tell me where we can see the list(s) of your top apps etc. |
It isn't a physical list, we each have our own faves. But the we're all in agreement on which apps are in that top 5.
So 'my' personal top five are TomTom, Navigon, Sygic, CoPilot and Garmin in that order of preference. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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brigham Occasional Visitor
Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 8 Location: Scotlandshire
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: CoPilot Issues |
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Darren wrote: | In their defence on this one subject, there is no facility in the appstore for loyalty discounts or other such offers. |
Yes, it's called "in-app purchase". If you already own the app, you can pay for an upgrade through the app. New customers won't have access to the "discount" because they don't yet own the app.
If they can do it for live services, then they can also do it for upgraded maps or updated software. It's just a cop out so they can rake in more money. _________________ TomTom One, iphone4s (looking for Nav app).
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Paladin Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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I have finally got my CoPilot Live premium [V 9] sorted. I have REMOVED it from my Galaxy Tab and have been using Navigon. Soooo much better.
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