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Oldboy
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| johndanson wrote: | | ... but as the packed file is an .OV2 file will this work or is conversion needed and if so how? |
If you are referring to the POI downloads, then these can also be in CSV, or ASC, format. You make the selection at Step 2.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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| what I meant to say was the unpacked level crossing file is in OV2 format whereas the traffic camera files are in CSV format so when the POI loader does its thing and transfers the data across to my Garmin unit will Garmin be able to use OV2 or do I have to do something else? |
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Oldboy
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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POILoader doesn't read OV2 files, so you will either have to download the CSV version, the easiest way, or convert the OV2 file with a program such as POIEdit.
Where are you getting the Level Crossing POI from?
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| originally from the Network rail site but have now downloaded it again from PGPSW as suggested but despite numerous attempts it only gets me the OV2 file despite having selected Garmin in the drop down box. Things aint getting better! |
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Oldboy
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure what is happening with your setup, but I can download the whole set in CSV format. 
There are 5 Steps in downloading POIs. What are you selecting at each one? Just so we get the whole picture and try to solve/replicate the problem.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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1. UK
2. CSV
3. Transport - level crossing
4. Combine subcategories into category file
5. Check box show link
Thats what I should have done however at stage 4 I went "Separate files per subcategory" which was obviously wrong as I now have in my possession my very own csv file. the good news is no paper was wasted and only a few billion microns were slightly disturbed. Thank you for you troubles. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Wazza_G wrote: | | No, that could be classed as a security issue. Live with it. |
Why? Because people would know when a train was coming? That information is out there on the web already - there are mobile apps that show train progress in real time. Not to mention that passenger trains are supposed to run to a timetable anyway.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Skippy wrote: | | Wazza_G wrote: | | No, that could be classed as a security issue. Live with it. |
Why? Because people would know when a train was coming? That information is out there on the web already - there are mobile apps that show train progress in real time. Not to mention that passenger trains are supposed to run to a timetable anyway. |
That's where you are completely WRONG!
Not all trains run to a timetable, there are:
Departmental or "Q" trains
ECS (Empty Coaching Stock), booked/non-booked or "Q" services
Light Locomotives booked/non-booked or "Q"
Freights booked/non-booked or "Q"
Diversions (Programmed & Non Programmed)
Special Charters
Only those in the know, know what time they're booked to PASS a certain point, even those of us (like me) who can get caught out by them.
I have access to a thing called CCLDB, which tells me the timings of 99,9% of all passenger services in the UK, what it doesn't tell me is what time freights, Light Locos may be running so if you want to try taking on a diverted freightliner at around 3000 tonnes, traveling at up to 60mph feel free, but you won't be here to tell the tail unless you're exceptionally lucky.
A simple fact. The average human being once hit by a train will fit quiet easily in 1 black dustbin bag.
Take it from someone who's killed someone with a train, it's not nice.
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| Wazza_G wrote: |
A simple fact. The average human being once hit by a train will fit quiet easily in 1 black dustbin bag.
Take it from someone who's killed someone with a train, it's not nice. |
Wazza's right, I've been to one of those and had to deal with a body in 3 main bits with the rest of it splattered down the track, you don't survive. Rail crossings etc are NOT to be messed with. |
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| Wazza_G wrote: | | Skippy wrote: | | Wazza_G wrote: | | No, that could be classed as a security issue. Live with it. |
Why? Because people would know when a train was coming? That information is out there on the web already - there are mobile apps that show train progress in real time. Not to mention that passenger trains are supposed to run to a timetable anyway. |
Not all trains run to a timetable, there are:
Departmental or "Q" trains
ECS (Empty Coaching Stock), booked/non-booked or "Q" services
Light Locomotives booked/non-booked or "Q"
Freights booked/non-booked or "Q"
Diversions (Programmed & Non Programmed)
Special Charters |
I still don't understand what the security issue is. If someone wanted to target a train then they could simply put a spotter 5 miles up the track. It's not exactly a secret that a train is coming.
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The security risk? So what if a train is carrying a member of Royalty or PM, Chancellor?
We don't advertise it, nor do we want to either.
It's not an advert for terrorists or others who have sinister ideas.
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Skippy
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| Wazza_G wrote: | The security risk? So what if a train is carrying a member of Royalty or PM, Chancellor?
We don't advertise it, nor do we want to either.
It's not an advert for terrorists or others who have sinister ideas. |
Yeah, but my point is that they DO advertise the train times in every station and on published timetables and you can even get smartphone apps that show the progress of the train. It's not a secret so there is no reason why the live data couldn't integrate with a sat nav....
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Wazza G... we realise you are privvy to top secret information about un-advertised trains and we're all terribly impressed  .
But the original suggestion from Sproing was about a way to avoid NORMAL advertised trains as they crossed level crossings.
What's wrong with that? No security risk there.
OK it wouldn't tell you when EVERY train was going to pass a level crossing, but it would do a large number (and I'm guessing a large majority of them).
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| And do be careful if you install this people. I did and forgot about it until I approached a level crossing near Southport. The whistle sound duly went off and frightened the bejazus out of me; I almost crashed the car! |
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