Speed Camera Database for NDrive

MaFt · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 11:58 am Post subject:

PS - just wanted to add that NDrive were the company who's iPhone app had so many bugs and issues that Apple removed it from sale. It never returned with the forest fixes - how's that for customer service?!

MaFt

Watchmaker · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 22, 2006 Posts: 22

Hi MaFt,

This evening I have tried editing the single camera file, concentrating on the section of M25 between A3 and A245. Cameras 14664, 14663, 14293 & 10704.
The entries are like this (as you know!)

GATSO:14664@70
speed=70;units=mph;type=fixed

(HTML tags deleted)

I have tried all manner of numbers in the place of the 2 speed statements but whatever I do to them 10704 shows all the time and the other 3 never.

I have examined the entire statement for 14664 and 10704 and apart from positional detail I can see no difference between them.

I shall have another look on Saturday evening when I will download a fresh file.

Any thoughts?

Regards, Frank.

MaFt · Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 12:35 am Post subject: Re: M25 cameras missing!

Watchmaker · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 22, 2006 Posts: 22

Hi MaFt,

It is quite a job to delete several thousand entries so I first tried importing the pmobile file that comes with the single file, as I reckoned there could only be a few hundred entries at most.
Result: no change except that 10704 has disappeared, but interestingly all the other UK cameras were still there. I expected them to disappear.

Next I extracted the 4 cameras from the single file together with the header and tail and imported that. Exactly the same result. ALL the old cameras were still there but not the 4.

I now think that my NDrive is not importing anything even though it claims it is. I have some history here. Some time after I first installed NDrive I changed the memory chip from 2 Gig to 8 and copied all the maps across. Thereafter NDrive began to refuse to run, inviting me to pay for the maps before continuing. I had no intention of paying again and emailed the NDrive team. They told me to delete the maps and re-download them, which I did, free of charge. I have now had to do this 3 times. NDrive now runs OK but I am still concerned that it may be faulty. I have so far been unable to work out how to download NDrive's camera file which seems to be free. I am happy to continue testing but I think I need to talk to NDrive again and see if I can get them to arrange for me to remove NDrive from my Wildfire and re-install without payment, something they have so far resisted, always telling me to download the maps again.

I will pursue this with the NDrive team and come back to you.

Would you like to give me your email address and I will contact you directly when I have some results?

Regards, Frank.

MaFt · Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 10:13 pm Post subject:

MaFt AT pocketgpsworld.com - but possibly better to continue in forum where it may help other users?

MaFt

Watchmaker · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 22, 2006 Posts: 22

OK, but I can't help anymore until I have info from NDrive.

Regards, frank.

scarymonkey · Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:43 pm Post subject:

I've got NDrive on my Desire HD so will do some testing to see what I can come up with. Is there anything specific you would like testing?

scarymonkey · Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 11:05 pm Post subject:

I've done a quick test and found the following:

1) The NDrive supplied speed camera database appears to be located at sdcard/ndrive/alerts_db/alerts.version_number. The current file is alerts.225 and contains 5284 cameras.

2) The imported PGPSW speed camera database is at sdcard/ndrive/alerts and is a much smaller file than the KML file (744K instead of over 3M in the download). It appears to be a SQlite database and contains 10404 entries.

3) Importing a new PGPSW database overwrites the existing alerts SQLite file so there is no reason to delete it when updating. The file size stays at 744K though and it does mean that the separate pmobile alerts will need to be added to the main file before importing. When both are combined (I think I did it right) I get 11480 entries in the SQLite DB and it is slightly larger at 821K

4) The variable speed cameras with a speed of 0 do not seem to show up at all. I will do some random checks of others but have found at least 1 camera that is in the SQLite DB but does not show up (camera 88150 which is in line 10074) so it appears not all cameras show up.

Edit to add - Only the first 10000 entries show up and any cameras with a speed of 0 do not get imported at all.

5) I made the mistake of adding some alerts as personal KML favourites and have not been able to find where this data is stored to delete it. Just deleting the KML file has had no effect so I will need to speak to NDrive to resolve this.

MaFt · Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:16 am Post subject:

scarymonkey · Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 1:32 pm Post subject:

FmTroll · Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:24 am Post subject: NDrive on Android

Hi guys,
I've read the string with great interest, thanks for helping me out even without asking Smile

Just got a SE Xperia Arc, bought NDrive 11 (Android Market), installed as it should. Maps for Scandinavia.

Yesterday, I subscibed for the speed cam database. Downloaded European database. Unzipped, connected the phone via USB, copied the file "pocketgps_eur_pmobile" to the phone, disconnected, started up NDrive, imported the file.

Cameras show up in NDrive, but no warnings!
(Speed Cam warnings activated in the program)

Am I missing out on something?

Thanks in advance!!

Watchmaker · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 22, 2006 Posts: 22

Hi MaFt,

I succeeded in erasing NDrive and re-installing it. I installed NDrive 10 from the Android Market and NDrive recognised my already purchased maps and downloaded them free. I thought that was quite impressive. Only problem is I am now running NDrive 10, with no idea how to upgrade to 11. It seems to work OK so I think I'll leave it alone!

So, at the moment I have a virgin installation with only NDrive's cameras installed.
Before I import a PGPS file it would be useful to know of a brand new gatso on your database that will not be on NDrive's. Only then can I be sure it is actually importing.

It's good to see there are now 2 of us willing to test. Instructions please!

Regards, Frank.

scarymonkey · Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:09 pm Post subject:

When I had NDrive 10 on Android I never successfully got the PGPSW cameras to import and NDrive support told me that it was impossible when I queried it - I hope your luck is better than mine.

I have also had a reply from NDrive

Watchmaker · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 22, 2006 Posts: 22

Hi,

This thread appears to have stopped. Has MaFt lost interest?

I cannot get any further with this without the info from I requested from MaFt but as NDrive appears to only handle 10,000 speed cams and there are more than that on the PGPS database maybe there is nothing further to be done and the NDrive database might as well be abandoned.

I have been round the M25 twice recently and tested Cameralert on my Wildfire and it crashed both times. It has crashed around Brighton as well. As neither the Ndrive database or Cameralert works for me I might as well cancel my subscription when if falls due in August unless a solution is found or if TomTom arrives for Android.

Any thoughts MaFt?

Best regards, Frank.

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