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matthewj Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:35 am Post subject: |
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davemcwish wrote: | I didn't realise that it had updated until after it happened so I've got 9.058; it's a nice (ish) layout.
Given the number of outstanding issues, particularly the very slow connection to the Live services, why did TT initiate the forced update ? |
Because their testing didn't show up the problems. And I do think that overall it is better despite the issues. Slow delay in getting traffic - just turn it on a bit earlier. Occasional reboot? Once per 3 long journeys perhaps, and if traffic doesn't come back it probably reboots again to resolve that too. |
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RavyGravyDavy Lifetime Member
Joined: Jul 03, 2005 Posts: 47 Location: East Sussex
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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davemcwish wrote: | I didn't realise that it had updated until after it happened so I've got 9.058; it's a nice (ish) layout.
Given the number of outstanding issues, particularly the very slow connection to the Live services, why did TT initiate the forced update ? |
Thats a good question.
Had a long and refreshingly candid chat with TT Support 2 days ago about the very issue. It was interesting that his personal view was that he wouldn't let 9.058 anywhere near a GOx40 Live device, because of the known issues it induces.
He also agreed that the forced update was a backward step and raised it with 2nd line. He has since got back to me and indicated that they are working on removing this in another update to V2.8.
I agree that 9.058 has an attractive GUI, and I do like it, but the drawbacks outweigh the advantages for me. But that said, the jury is out, as there are also some who clearly like 9.058, have no or few problems and wish to go with it while accepting any limitations it may introduce. Others, like me, would prefer a fully working unit.
I think therefore that it comes down to personal choice; so if and when TT reintroduce the option to select or deselect the Navcore update in TT home, then we will all be happy. |
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franb Banned
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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RavyGravyDavy wrote: | so if and when TT reintroduce the option to select or deselect the Navcore update in TT home, then we will all be happy. |
Except by then, those who don't like it will have already beed forced to take it. Well done TTHQ! |
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RavyGravyDavy Lifetime Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:20 am Post subject: |
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franb wrote: | RavyGravyDavy wrote: | so if and when TT reintroduce the option to select or deselect the Navcore update in TT home, then we will all be happy. |
Except by then, those who don't like it will have already beed forced to take it. Well done TTHQ! |
.....unless they do the 'hack', fooling 2.7 into thinking it is 2.8 as you have already outlined earlier...? |
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MrT Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:06 am Post subject: |
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I would guess that less than 0.1% of TT Home users will have heard about hacking Home and have actually done it.
As to TomTom allowing the forcing of the update as their testing did not show up the problems, that is just so false, TomTom have known about the problem and acknowledged it, months before they changed Home to force the update. _________________ Drivelux |
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RavyGravyDavy Lifetime Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:42 am Post subject: |
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I agree entirely Mr T, only the reasonably computer savvy would be able to find the hack, let alone expedite it.
And I also agree that TT knew long ago about the issues with 9.058, I see your first post on the subject was Sep 16 2010, so that's getting on for over 6 months since these became known, so why the heck they made it 'forced' is anyones guess?
Perhaps from a support point of view, they are seeking to standardise software versions across platforms, ie less combinations of software and units, so that they will have a narrower support overhead with everyone operating to the same Navcore version on a particular unit.
Whatever the reason, on our 'issue', ie forced update of 9.058 on a GOx40, they havent covered themselves in glory. |
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MRCC Regular Visitor
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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RavyGravyDavy wrote: | Whatever the reason, on our 'issue', ie forced update of 9.058 on a GOx40, they havent covered themselves in glory. |
My opinion of TT: Left hand doesn't know what the Right hand is doing |
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IanS100 Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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I imagine we're all going to have to accept the shortcomings of the 'old' generation TomTom models because I can't see TomTom dedicating many resources to new nav core versions or updates when they clearly want us all on the web based Home 3. What are the chances that even the problem ridden 100 series will be superseded soon with more new models hitting the markets but all no doubt using Home 3 |
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RavyGravyDavy Lifetime Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, you are probably right, I guess I am just being kind in thinking there is some logic to what is actually just a complete cock up. _________________ Dave
GO 940 Live V8.371, Live 1005
Tomtom Home V2.7 (hacked into thinking it is 10.0.0.0!)
Snooper 3Zero
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RATOM Regular Visitor
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:38 pm Post subject: Cannot save application dot ini file to tick home |
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Hi
In response to a question about TT Home forcing update, one of the suggestions (from David !) was to change the version. I have 2.7 at present. This is what I did.
Went to programme files, tomtom home 2, xul folder and changed version to 2.8.1.2218.
But it does not let me save the change. The error messages is "...cannot create the file..make sure the path and file name are correct" if after changing the version in notepad, I go to File and Save option.
And if I click the cross to close the notepad page, I am asked if I want to save changes. Clicking Save, throws the above message again.
Any advice ?
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dhn Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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Make sure the setting in notepad is to save 'as all files' _________________ David |
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RATOM Regular Visitor
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks David
In notepad, the setting in Save As is "all files" but still no luck.
ratom |
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RavyGravyDavy Lifetime Member
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Not quite so simple in Windows 7, as before saving, you have to edit the permissions of the application.ini file;
1. Right click the application.ini file, select 'Properties'
2. Select 'Security' tab, click 'Edit' under 'To change permissions'.
3. Under Group or User names select 'Users'
4. Under 'Permissions for Users', tick the 'Full control' box under the 'Allow' column, all boxes underneath should become ticked.
5. Click 'Apply', then Ok and Ok to exit the Properties box.
You should now be able to select 'Save' and overwrite the original file. _________________ Dave
GO 940 Live V8.371, Live 1005
Tomtom Home V2.7 (hacked into thinking it is 10.0.0.0!)
Snooper 3Zero
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RATOM Regular Visitor
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Dave
Thanks a lot.
Worked instantly!
Connected my 740 to home and all is working great.
Once again, David and Dave both thank you very much
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ratman633 Lifetime Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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I'm being offered "2.8.1.2218lt" is the "LT" something new/different or have they all been like this? _________________ Keith
TomTom 540
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