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RobBrady Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:53 pm Post subject: Hapless Biker Gets Caught Giving Speed Camera The Finger |
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Biker, Paul Collins, 26, assumed he was immune when he gave a speed camera the finger as he sped by at nearly 50mph in a 30mph zone.
His mates had told him that he wouldn't get caught as particular speed cameras only took photos of back number plates. Motorbikes don't have front plates - that requirement was dropped in 1975 due to the danger they posed to both bikers and pedestrians in the event of an accident.
He didn't reckon on the clarity of the image though.
Not only was his face visible, but his clothes and bike were easily recognisable. Local police just kept their eyes peeled (think red rag to a bull) and jotted down his numberplate the next time they saw him on the road.
Officers gave him a surprise, no doubt with smug looks on their faces, when they knocked on his door and told him he was going to court. Magistrates pointed out the error of his ways and fined him £177. They also gave him five points on his licence.
Source: Mail Online _________________ Robert Brady |
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Skippy Pocket GPS Verifier


Joined: 24/06/2003 00:22:12 Posts: 2946 Location: Escaped to the Antipodies! 36.83°S 174.75°E
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:09 am Post subject: |
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Wonder what sort of camera it was. I've heard of bikers getting nicked like this but that was by Truvelos which are, of course, front facing. As far as I understand , Gatsos will usually flash traffic facing them but they don't waste their film by taking photos because the second photo often wouldn't show the vehicle anyway.
If the Gatsos do take front facing photos then there would be a few people I know with wanted posters on the Scamera partnership's walls because they are not averse to a bit of Gatso baiting....
Of course I've never been tempted to engage in such childish behaviour.  _________________ Gone fishing! |
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DeLorean Lifetime Member

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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Ha… ha…
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JockTamsonsBairn Lifetime Member

Joined: Jan 10, 2004 Posts: 2777 Location: Bonnie Scotland (West Central)
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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Adj. 1. hapless - deserving or inciting pity; "a hapless victim";
Hardly!
There are enough hapless bikers knocked off their bikes each year or spilling it down the road because of diesel spillages, that idiots like that don't deserve our pity! _________________ Jock
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pmdye Occasional Visitor

Joined: Mar 08, 2006 Posts: 1 Location: Southampton
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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:56 am Post subject: |
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It was local to me (Southampton), so reported locally; I know the camera, an yes, it's a Truvelo (a3024, Bitterne). |
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awilson29 Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Not only was his face visible, but his clothes and bike were easily recognisable. Local police just kept their eyes peeled (think red rag to a bull) and jotted down his numberplate the next time they saw him on the road. |
What a total waste of Police resources ... instead of looking out for this biker maybe they should have been something a little more constructive ... just think of the time and effort it may have took ...
They processed the picture somewhere ... then somebody took the time to send it back to the specific police area ... I guess it went through several hands and then some briefing ... after the briefing every traffic officer or every police officer was on the lookout for the biker but my guess would be they sat at the same spot around the same time waiting for the suspect ... give the timing a little leeway so they could have been sat there say 1 hour ... got the details then drove around to his house to give him the news he was going to court ... then after that was court and its cost - which I guess was not paid fully by the biker (magistrates, duty solictor etc)
I wonder the cost of this whole episode ... they moan about cuts and are told to be more efficient but stories like this make wonder! Cost / Benefit analysis ...
No sympathy for the biker though ... he should not have been speeding in the first place :D |
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laidlawbob Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:01 am Post subject: |
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AM I missing something
He was told that the camera only takes pictures of the rear number plate but he had no front number plate.
A slight slip me thinks.
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DeLorean Lifetime Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:17 am Post subject: |
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laidlawbob wrote: | AM I missing something
He was told that the camera only takes pictures of the rear number plate but he had no front number plate.
A slight slip me thinks.
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Well spotted
What an observant young man
It should have read:
His mates had told him that he wouldn't get caught as particular speed cameras only took photos of front number plates. _________________ 🔸🔸 Currently using TomTom GO 940 & Locus Map 🔸🔸
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BigPerk Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:19 am Post subject: |
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From initial post Quote: | jotted down his numberplate the next time they saw him on the road | Although I would have thought he might have argued 'that was just someone else's bike of the same make' _________________ David
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Skippy Pocket GPS Verifier


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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:29 am Post subject: |
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awilson29 wrote: |
I wonder the cost of this whole episode ... they moan about cuts and are told to be more efficient but stories like this make wonder! Cost / Benefit analysis ...  |
It's one of these occasional high profile prosecutions that they do. No, it's not worth it to catch one idiot but the general idea is to make an example of someone and put the fear of The Law into everyone which keeps the rest them on the straight and narrow.... _________________ Gone fishing! |
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hpyatt Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:53 am Post subject: |
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BigPerk wrote: | From initial post Quote: | jotted down his numberplate the next time they saw him on the road | Although I would have thought he might have argued 'that was just someone else's bike of the same make' |
.....wearing the same helmet, leathers and gloves with a stiff second finger on the right hand. |
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bonkey Lifetime Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:11 pm Post subject: camera revenge |
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And now if that was me i would damage the camera, even if, to stop it scamming money for a period of time, let alone costing points on peoples licences! i honestly cannot understand why cameras are not damaged every day, all it takes is a can of spray paint and a quick squirt on the lense! I'd likely use spray glue or a chemical spray agent to damage the lense itself, thats if i were to get caught speeding by a camera of course. Lying cheating dishonest scum police are a different matter-why are so many police officers dishonest and lie these days? well actually as a bike rider i can say they have often been dishonest for as many years as i can recall-20+ but i have had the case thrown out of court on more than one occasion as clearly proved police blatently lying ;-)
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DeLorean Lifetime Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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I certainly don't agree with the above post
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timjrob Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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bonkey, it's cretins like you who've brought about the introduction of speed cameras, and other draconian measures used by the police against road users. |
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Darren Frequent Visitor

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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: camera revenge |
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bonkey wrote: | And now if that was me i would damage the camera, even if, to stop it scamming money for a period of time,[SNIP] |
I'm not going to waste time on this so I'll keep it simple to avoid any misunderstandings.
Discussion about causing damage to speed cameras is not welcome here and we will not and do not condone such actions nor do I personally agree with your sweeping generalisations of the police.
I'll leave it at that, I don't want this to become any more heated but I will remind you that you are privileged as a Life Member, but those privileges will be worth nowt if you are banned for breaching our forum rules of conduct. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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