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RobBrady Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:54 pm Post subject: Speed Awareness Courses To Pay For Speed Cameras |
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The Mail Online has reported on new plans to raise revenue under the speed awareness scheme which involves sending speeding drivers off to one-day safe driving courses.
As things stand, getting caught speeding will set you back £60 and three penalty points on your license. Under the new scheme, drivers would be able to choose to avoid getting points on their license. Instead, they would take a one-day road safety awareness course, which would set them back £100.
A third of this money would go to councils to keep their local speed cameras running.
Under the plan, motorists found breaking the speed limit by less than 10 percent, plus 9 miles per hour, would be offered the choice between the points and the fine, or the more expensive awareness course, and no points on their license, provided they weren't repeat offenders.
The new scheme has gained the support of police forces in a dozen counties, and more are expected to speak up for the plan as further speed cameras are being turned off due to lack of funds. The plan, if the scheme goes through, is to have all the moth-balled cameras back on by April of this year, provided the agreement is made by the end of January.
The president of the AA, Edmund King, has come out in support of the proposal, and has also been quoted as saying that he thinks motorists in general will be in support of it, since they still have access to the cheaper option. Though given that this is essentially undisguised revenue raising, this speculation could be up for a very harsh test from the general public. _________________ Robert Brady |
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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Wrong Mr AA man. Taking the points on your licence is not the cheaper option. Next time you renew your insurance there will be a difference between telling them you have 3 points for speeding to telling them you have 0 points. If you have the money you can avoid the points. One law for those with money another law for those who cannot afford it.
Also who is going to be the fat cat company who is going to make more money out of the motorist by pocketing the £66 for running the course, perhaps the AA are looking for the work.
I would also like to know why councils have anything to do with Speed Cameras. Speeding is a legal issue of breaking a Law and should only be dealt with by the police leaving the council to concentrate on cutting grass verges and emptying bins. |
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:35 am Post subject: |
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Trevor wrote: | perhaps the AA are looking for the work. |
Why would you think that?
Trevor wrote: | I would also like to know why councils have anything to do with Speed Cameras. Speeding is a legal issue of breaking a Law and should only be dealt with by the police leaving the council to concentrate on cutting grass verges and emptying bins. |
Well said. _________________ Gone fishing! |
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:53 am Post subject: |
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Trevor wrote: |
I would also like to know why councils have anything to do with Speed Cameras. Speeding is a legal issue of breaking a Law and should only be dealt with by the police leaving the council to concentrate on cutting grass verges and emptying bins. |
Law enforcement is not just the police's business, far from it. You may wish to research which laws are enforced by which agencies. |
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Trevor wrote: | If you have the money you can avoid the points. One law for those with money another law for those who cannot afford it. | But it's 'only' £40 (and a day off work) to keep your licence clean. Perhaps the less well off should not speed if they can't afford the consequences ![Wink](modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:03 am Post subject: |
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M8TJT wrote: | Perhaps the less well off should not speed if they can't afford the consequences ![Wink](modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
Let's hope that was VERY tongue-in-cheek!
Otherwise, come the revolution..... ![Twisted Evil](modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) |
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Andy_P wrote: | M8TJT wrote: | Perhaps the less well off should not speed if they can't afford the consequences ![Wink](modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
Let's hope that was VERY tongue-in-cheek!
Otherwise, come the revolution..... ![Twisted Evil](modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) | Of course it was. Perhaps I should have put in a few more 'winks' ![Rolling Eyes](modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif) |
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Only joshing, M8.
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Find Andy_P here ![Very Happy](modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) |
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Obviously a Crime Watch CCTV clip Andy_P - reports are out that Father Christmas has been assassinated! ![Twisted Evil](modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) _________________ David
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Who benifits from the revenue from these speed awareness courses, have'nt you guessed, it is the AOCPO, there nice little company they are running, read the MCN they have investigated it.
It is in the Police's interest to keep all the cameras going.
Not the AA, who seem to take everything laying down. |
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whiteshark wrote: | Who benifits from the revenue from these speed awareness courses, have'nt you guessed, it is the AOCPO, there nice little company they are running, read the MCN they have investigated it.
It is in the Police's interest to keep all the cameras going.
Not the AA, who seem to take everything laying down. |
I'll think you'll find the AA do have a vested interest - http://www.aadrivetech.com/driveraware/
Drivetech was set up by an ex policeman who appears to have now sold it to the AA no doubt having made a fortune! |
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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spook51 wrote: | Trevor wrote: |
I would also like to know why councils have anything to do with Speed Cameras. Speeding is a legal issue of breaking a Law and should only be dealt with by the police leaving the council to concentrate on cutting grass verges and emptying bins. |
Law enforcement is not just the police's business, far from it. You may wish to research which laws are enforced by which agencies. |
As a rough guestimate I would say Laws are made in Parliment and should be enforced by every law abiding citizen.
They are not there for councils, private companies or an individual for that matter to say they are enforcing them and make a profit out of. Remember the Wheel Clamping fiasco. |
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Trevor wrote: | spook51 wrote: | Trevor wrote: |
I would also like to know why councils have anything to do with Speed Cameras. Speeding is a legal issue of breaking a Law and should only be dealt with by the police leaving the council to concentrate on cutting grass verges and emptying bins. |
Law enforcement is not just the police's business, far from it. You may wish to research which laws are enforced by which agencies. |
As a rough guestimate I would say Laws are made in Parliment and should be enforced by every law abiding citizen.
They are not there for councils, private companies or an individual for that matter to say they are enforcing them and make a profit out of. Remember the Wheel Clamping fiasco. |
You may say that, the reality is different. |
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