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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:14 pm    Post subject: Compass Crossover Speed Reply with quote

What is the best speed to switch from the electronic compass to the GPS compass.

I know the electronic works best when stationary and the GPS best when on the move but what is the best crossover speed ?

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always have mine set to 2kph.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I'm lost. I had no idea there was a difference Assuming 2 Kph is best, where do I go to set it ? Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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OK, I'm lost. I had no idea there was a difference Assuming 2 Kph is best, where do I go to set it ? Thanks.


Go to settings, then GPS settings then "Use GPS Compass"
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gibbo10 wrote:
I always have mine set to 2kph.


Thanks Gibbo.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it may depend on when you are likely to use the compass. As a walker I am likely to use it when stationary. In this case I do not want it to be confused by a poor GPS signal making it think I am moving and giving a misleading answer. So I have set the change over speed to 4 kph. For runners or cyclists however the logic may be quite different.

I hope that makes sense.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I'm still confused what is does and how it works ?eg While walking along, I decide to look at the compass, are we saying that below your setting, (or above it) it may be wrong ?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes this does rather beg the question - if it is necessary to change to GPS direction above a certain speed can the non-GPS compass be trusted, if not why have it at all ?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know the specifics of the Satmap Active 10, but in general terms an electronic compass is less likely to be correct unless you have just recalibrated it for your present environment. However, a GPS heading is pretty meaningless when stationary. So, if you are stationary or moving at very low speed an electronic compass is useful. At higher speeds the directions worked out by GPS are more likely to be accurate.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly right, kartracer.

So I set my Garmin to use Electronic Compass below 2mph, and GPS Compass above 2mph.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may be wrong, but I thought the compass on the compass screen worked the same regardlees of the setting. That is to say, by detecting the Earth's magnetic force.

Where setting option comes in is when headings and bearings are shown in the data boxes.

I will the latest and previous manuals.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

4ndynorfolk wrote:
I may be wrong, but I thought the compass on the compass screen worked the same regardlees of the setting. That is to say, by detecting the Earth's magnetic force...


No Andy, the electronic compass is for all intent and purposes, useless, and won't give a stable result within 30-45 degrees (even when newly-calibrated). Once you are moving above the threshold speed, the interpolated direction compass is far more accurate and useable.

I'm not sure what the issue is with the staionary readings, but it's pointless.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good quality GPS electronic compass is rated at plus or minus 2 degrees or so, once calibrated and held level. (I cannot speak for the Satmap's specification!)

Certainly you should use the GPS compass, once moving.

But when stationary, in difficult ground, with poor visibility, you sometimes need to be sure that you are setting off in broadly the right direction (before the GPS compass kicks in). That's when the electronic compass is reassuring.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

planetnine wrote:
4ndynorfolk wrote:
I may be wrong, but I thought the compass on the compass screen worked the same regardlees of the setting. That is to say, by detecting the Earth's magnetic force...


No Andy, the electronic compass is for all intent and purposes, useless, and won't give a stable result within 30-45 degrees (even when newly-calibrated). Once you are moving above the threshold speed, the interpolated direction compass is far more accurate and useable.

I'm not sure what the issue is with the staionary readings, but it's pointless.


If I sit at home and use the Satmap electronic compass it shows magnetic north to be in the same direction as a traditional compass,so I wouldn't say "useless".

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