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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Safari here, Firefox is too slow for me and I prefer the stability and speed of Safari. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 12:27 am Post subject: |
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I have yet to decide over Firefox/Safari and Mail/Thunderbird/Entourage.
Right now I have them all available. I'm using Firefox mostly, but because I used it under Windows, so I'm more accustomed to it, but it does seem to have some differences. My main problem is email - all three are not performing as I want them to. I had Thunderbird in Windows, but the Mac version isn't the same.
So I'm getting ready to go to the Apple shop and take up some of my One-to-One entitlement and get them to show me how to use (amongst other things) Mail and Safari, getting them as I want them. My inclination is to try to use native Apple stuff if only I can get to grips with it, because I'd then expect total support from the Mac shop for them. I suppose my trouble is I'm not happy to accept the default setups. ![Confused](modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) _________________ Dennis
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry DennisN I maybe should not have posted that question on your thread but as it was Mac related thought it was okay .
I agree with you regarding about using Mac related stuff as it is designed for the operating system the same goes for iWork (which they are expecting a new version out soon )they say Microsoft office for mac (which a new version has just been released ) is very good |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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john877 wrote: | they say Microsoft office for mac (which a new version has just been released ) is very good |
They lie! It's yet another bloated pile of **** _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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john877 wrote: | they say Microsoft office for mac (which a new version has just been released ) is very good | But why would you want to run MS stuff on a Mac. Surely you'd be better off with a PC or the Mac s/W ![Confused](modules/Forums/images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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Well there are some valid reasons, firstly it's a native Mac app. Secondly many use Office at work and so are familiar with it and or need to be able to open/edit MS Office format files.
iWork is pretty good at handling MS format files but it's not 100%. Schools also use MS products.
Another argument is that it comes with Outlook and full compatibility Exchange Server and enterprise support. That may be a deciding factor for a mixed PC/Mac environment, particularly in businesses.
I've got MS Office 2011 and it offers me personally nothing I can't do more easily in iWork.
MS Office has always, for me, been over specced. It tries to do far more than the vast majority of users require of it. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for your feed back concerning iWork and Microsoft office for Mac .
I am able to purchase Microsoft office for Mac 2011 for about £38 legally may I add which was pretty tempting .
What are your thoughts on open office ? |
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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john877 wrote: | Thanks for your feed back concerning iWork and Microsoft office for Mac .
I am able to purchase Microsoft office for Mac 2011 for about £38 legally may I add which was pretty tempting .
What are your thoughts on open office ? |
OpenOffice and StarOffice are both OK but not without issues. If budgets are tight then worth considering but given the low cost of iWork and MSOffice (which version is £38?) then I couldn't recommend it. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Darren Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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That's 2010, the current version is 2011. 2010 came with Entourage. I asked which version as not all come with Outlook, Student editions do not. _________________ Darren Griffin |
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Microsoft Office for Mac 2011
***Includes Outlook***
£37.95
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Actually Academic Versions (different from the Student Version sold in shops) come with all 12 or so apps including Outlook and can be legally bought by qualifying students (or their parents) for about £50 delivered....
For example
Quote: | Microsoft Office 2010 Professional Plus (for PC)
£38.95
includes
• Microsoft Excel 2010
• Microsoft Outlook 2010 with Business Contact Manager
• Microsoft PowerPoint 2010
• Microsoft Word 2010
• Microsoft Access 2010
• Microsoft InfoPath 2010
• Microsoft Communicator
• Microsoft Publisher 2010
• Microsoft OneNote 2010 New addition to suite
• Microsoft SharePoint Workspace 2010
• Microsoft Office Web Apps
• Integrated solution capabilities such as enterprise content management (ECM), electronic forms, and information rights and policy capabilities |
The price is sickening for non-qualifiers, especially as, un-like in previous years, you now no longer have to give up the license once you pass out of education.
I've also helped many parents buy and install this. You get an academic CD/ DVD with license code in a black sleeve. The website is mentioned as a legit supplier on the MS website. Third entry here |
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john877 Lifetime Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Yes that's quite correct Paul ! until recently a download version was available for £8-95 through Microsoft (occupation based criteria) but this was pulled by Microsoft .
But as I am sure you know Apple also offer discounts to students and certain employees of companies who match there criteria for a discounted product .
I was in the apple shop when the schools were on holiday and the Apple shop was holding a demonstration of the mac for children aged about 10 years old !talk about getting customers hooked up young it was great to see a company run something like that |
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