TomTom - Third party POI alerts are no more

[BigPerk]

Hi DarrenR21373. As this is about TT POIs (PGPSW mainly, but also of course other more general POIs), I'll try and not go too far OTT, but perhaps need to explain my 'recommendation' a little more clearly as some people clearly are thinking about alternatives.

At 66 I can only claim to be FOND of my Navigon and I do use POIWarner for a number of POIs. If someone with specific requirements compatible with Navigon, or expresses an interest, then I would certainly endorse their eminently sensible intentions - if POIs were ONE of their needs I would try explain what I feel they need to be aware of.

Here though, POIs are the PRIMARY concern of the posters. When I used Garmin (with Ash's Camera Manager) POIs and any warnings loaded almost without a thought, integrated seamlessly into Garmin's own POIs, displayed on the map, all at no extra cost (Ash donation apart!). I assume TT traditionally are fairly similar. Pretty well "Plug and Play".

Unfortunately Navigon/POIWarner currently compares unfavourably in quite a number of important areas (IMHO). I won't burden TT aficianados too much with what most of them presumably don't need to hear- just two examples:

(i) PGPSW - camera icons do not display directly on the map but appear in a separate side display, often blocking the 'Next Turn' indicator I'm relying on at that moment !

(ii) Most of my other POIs can't be loaded in without running them through another 3rd party file conversion utility first, which itself does not always run like a dream . Definitely NOT "Plug and Play" in my experience.

Sorry if I've outstayed my welcome TT folks, but I didn't want anyone who really did start looking around to get any unwanted surprises (as some people have).

But if you DO want a REALLY good device anyway .....
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David
(Navigon 70 Live, Nuvi 360)

[DarrenR21373]

[DeLorean]

Over the years I've owned 3 TomTom's.

I use many custom POI's, especially when driving abroad.

It looks like I won't be buying another when my 910 finally dies!

TomTom have become very ignorant and aragont over the past few years!

This will stop many current TomTom users upgrading to new TomTom devices and instead find an alternative manufacturer.

It would appear they are “Cutting off the nose to spite the face”.

Silly sods!
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[jurowla]

Like other members and users of this forum I have remained loyal to TomTom for many years. Newer and more exciting PND have appeared and I can tell you that living in Europe, you are presented with a bewildering array of options when it comes to product offerings in all but the smallest of retail outlets.

I strongly believe that a dedicated PND is the only choice for the job. Anything else is just a convergence compromise. PND’s have IMHO better sound and better dedicated processing. My GO 740 has never had to be reset and has guided me faultlessly twice in the last year from the UK to Greece. Live services worked faultlessly (until today when they told me I had 31 days to go until subscription renewal, would I like to renew? I said not today thank you. They cut me off dead! I then said yes and they still cut me off dead)!

Nevertheless the one thing that kept me loyal to the Dutch brand was third party POI support and in particular Pocketgpsworld.com and SCDB databases. I am sorry TT but I simply do not have the confidence in your camera database. I have been able to compare all as I subscribed to all. Sorry but if you discontinue third party POI support I will buy my next PND from Navigon as POI Warner seems to work with them, allowing me to still use the magnificent PGPSW reference source.

Take heed TT. Whilst the retailer may be able to convince Joe Soap and some poor old lady that yours is the product of choice, your fan base are the constant buyers of upgrades. I have seven TT units alone and only the almighty above knows how many I have flogged on your behalf when asked for a recommendation.

Unliked Arnold, if the non support of PGPSW databases and others is to continue, I will not be back.

[mjdj1689]

Same here, Maplins have put a price up for the new 1000 at 279 for uk and eire and 20 pounds more for the europe model, speaking of the tomtom speed cams where I live near to stoke , there were some speedcameras on the A500 temp ones at that, the camera database that I use from here has them all gone which is correct, but you guessed it the tomtom database still says they are live.

One quick question when I put my 950 on the dock and check for updates it offers me 2 sets of tomtom speed cam databases a Premium one and a normal one, whats the difference ?

[aj2052]

[JLee]

I've been a user of PGSW speed camera alerts for many years but increasingly I've found I just get so used to the alerts now that I often switch off and don't take notice of them. Also the use of technology and the variety of speed camera locations and methods of catching people is widening so much. The only real answer is to drive safely and SLOW DOWN, keeping within the speed limits.

What I have started to find more useful than the camera alerts on my TT XL Live is the alert sounded when you exceed the speed limit for the current road and for going over a pre-configured maximum. To ensure I don't get used to it and ignore it I change the sound frequently.

So what I'm saying is that although I resent TomTom's stance on this I I personally find speed camera alerts are becoming less and less useful.

[Lionley]

I believe Tom Tom's actions are illegal under the Treaty of Rome. They are denying free trade. I am retired now, but I was heavilly involved in third party maintenance of a (then) well known computer companys products. I spent 2 weeks compiling a report to the European Commissioners who found that Company in breach of European Law. This situation with Tom Tom seems to me to be very similar.

Who will report them?

[MaFt]

[MaFt]

[gamichea]

[MaFt]

also, we're not just talking speed cameras here.

other POIs that you may want alerts for: school crossing patrols, low bridges, railway crossings, schools, public toilets...

do tomtom provide these POIs in their map databases? no. so they need to be from a 3rd party yet they block the ability to alert for them...

THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!

MaFt

[JLee]

[JLee]

[hamsden]

Well this is a backward stet by Tom Tom. I was considering them as a replacement for my GARMIN. They have made my mind up for me and I will be Buying a GARMIN in future

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