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Nigel-DV Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:39 pm Post subject: Tomtom's own camera database for £35 pa; better than this? |
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Hi all
I'm a member around here and regularly download the pocketgpsworld speed camera database for Tomtom.
Just about to buy a new Tomtom, more up-to-date model. Have just noticed that Tomtom have their own speed cam database for £35 per year.
Is it better, worse or same as the downloads available here? |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator


Joined: Jan 04, 2006 Posts: 9323 Location: Durham, UK
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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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TomToms database is worse.
There is a list of things to consider here |
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Nigel-DV Occasional Visitor

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Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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That works for me. Thanks. |
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jrohomon Lifetime Member

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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Not by a long shot, this database is awesome. |
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DennisN Tired Old Man


Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14907 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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In fairness to TomTom, I think you'll find their database is not £35 a year - that's probably a combination of GPRS Traffic (via a bluetooth linked phone if you can get a phone to link by bluetooth!) and cameras. Neither of them are worth it, in my opinion. The traffic is not very reliable and the cameras are a joke. Have a read around THIS to get a feeling about them.
If you're thinking about a new model, you may get one of the LIVE devices which come with a 3 month free trial of the Live services, including HD Traffic (which looks good, but again in my opinion, not worth paying the price they ask) and cameras which are no good. After the trial ends, it's a subscription service at about £8 a month _________________ Dennis
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SpikeyMikey Lifetime Member

Joined: Mar 21, 2006 Posts: 858 Location: Hertfordshire. Forever blowing bubbles
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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DennisN wrote: | HD Traffic (which looks good, but again in my opinion, not worth paying the price they ask) and cameras which are no good. |
Hi Dennis,
I was interested to see you say this as this was the main reason I was considering buying my first Tom Tom PND. Is the service ok but you feel it's overpriced, or is it rubbish full stop? From what I've seen on their website it seems quite good, although obviously not the same as being in the thick of it so to speak. I had the GPRS service when I used TTN6 and it saved me a couple of times.
I agree about the cameras though. _________________ Mike
TT GO6000 (Europe); iPhone and iPad Pro with iOS TT GO & MyDrive + CamerAlert |
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M8TJT The Other Tired Old Man


Joined: Apr 04, 2006 Posts: 10118 Location: Bexhill, South Sussex, UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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SpikeyMikey wrote: | From what I've seen on their website it seems quite good, |
They are highly unlikely to tell you that it is not very good, now are they  |
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keithjeffrey Lifetime Member

Joined: Apr 07, 2006 Posts: 249 Location: Kent , England
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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I would'nt use TomToms speed camera database if they were giving me £ 35 per year.......................it's a load of pony  _________________ Keith
TomTom GO 730T App 8.392 (1909/091109) , W and CE 2GB v835.2419 |
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DennisN Tired Old Man


Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14907 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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SpikeyMikey wrote: | DennisN wrote: | HD Traffic (which looks good, but again in my opinion, not worth paying the price they ask) and cameras which are no good. |
Hi Dennis,
I was interested to see you say this as this was the main reason I was considering buying my first Tom Tom PND. Is the service ok but you feel it's overpriced, or is it rubbish full stop? |
It's not rubbish, better than GPRS, in fact (although I only had a short trial of GPRS over a year ago). And it does offer routing round a jam to save your brain - today I allowed it to do so going into London and it took me part of a route I've never used before and it seemed reasonable. I just don't think I'd pay that much (£8 a month) for it - two years and I've paid the purchase price of my TomTom!! I have still to be persuaded it's accurate and up to date (inherent human interfaces mean it's gotter be fallible!). I tend to disbelieve it by default, I'm afraid.
Having said which, I'll be signing up for Live services when my free trial ends, because the Google Search is so good - a really great help for me doing whitevanmanning.
The only reason I've still got TT cameras on my XL Live is that I'm proving (daily) that they are inadequate compared with the pgpsw ones and whilst I'm waiting to be able to get text files displayed on the XL, I'm keeping my 920 which does display them and that's the device with my pgpsw cameras installed at the moment. _________________ Dennis
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff


Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15389 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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DennisN wrote: | Having said which, I'll be signing up for Live services when my free trial ends, because the Google Search is so good - a really great help for me doing whitevanmanning. |
for £8 per month you could get an unlimited data plan on your phone and use google on their to add the address/postcode to navigate to. it would also give you email on teh go as well as full t'interwebnet access!!
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DennisN Tired Old Man


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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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MaFt wrote: | DennisN wrote: | Having said which, I'll be signing up for Live services when my free trial ends, because the Google Search is so good - a really great help for me doing whitevanmanning. |
for £8 per month you could get an unlimited data plan on your phone and use google on their to add the address/postcode to navigate to. it would also give you email on teh go as well as full t'interwebnet access!!
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On a Nokia 6230i?  _________________ Dennis
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff


Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15389 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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p'raps not then fella!!! |
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SpikeyMikey Lifetime Member

Joined: Mar 21, 2006 Posts: 858 Location: Hertfordshire. Forever blowing bubbles
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:34 am Post subject: |
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M8TJT wrote: | SpikeyMikey wrote: | From what I've seen on their website it seems quite good, |
They are highly unlikely to tell you that it is not very good, now are they  |
I meant using the service on their website, I'm not that much of a mug!
Edit: Thanks for the explanation Dennis. _________________ Mike
TT GO6000 (Europe); iPhone and iPad Pro with iOS TT GO & MyDrive + CamerAlert |
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mjdj1689 Regular Visitor

Joined: Mar 03, 2006 Posts: 132
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:03 am Post subject: |
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I do have tom tom hd traffic, and the speed camera database is rubbish. I travel between Manchester and Bristol each week, and there are 6 lots of spec cameras and roadworks on the route. And tomtoms only shows 2 sets of specs on the roadworks and half the cameras are not shown anyway.
There is one part on the m5 around junction 8 where there were speed cameras 3 months ago and it still warns me to go 50 mph to this day. The thing is you do get traffic warnings for roadwoks on the m5 but it just does not show the specs cameras.
And on A roads a lot of the cameras are missing to , and also when the cameras work in both directions on a A road tomtom does not show this, so I marked this 3 times onto the tomtoms database like you can on the 940, but it was never shown by tomtom on their database.
At least Pocket gps database works and is always upto date. Why do tomtom use Roadangel instead of pocket gps, I wonder why its so out of date and I wonder what roadangels own devices are like.
One more thing is what do garmin use and how is their database compared to tomtoms. |
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MaFt Pocket GPS Staff


Joined: Aug 31, 2005 Posts: 15389 Location: Bradford, West Yorkshire
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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:51 am Post subject: |
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garmin use cyclops. from past experience i'm not allowed to comment on their database as we got a snotty email a while back when i mentioned it's failings in a review i did...
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