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misterb206
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 Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:57 pm Post subject: Speed on green safety cameras |
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Has any one else seen this
basically red light cameras are no being used as speed cameras when the light is green
here is a link for my local area explaining all @ DSC
and for the locals a list of there locations !! RED & GREEN |
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GerryC
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| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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These are quite common throughout the country. On the database from here they are labelled "Redspeed" and are in the gatso category based on the speed limit for passing through on green.
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aj2052
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:51 am Post subject: |
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It seems a bit of an irrevelent posting if you pass at red you get fined if you pass on green above the speed limit you get fined, the rules apply in all cases, coomon sense applies.
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DennisN
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 7:58 am Post subject: |
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The list quoted is not of all the "Red/Green" cameras - look closely and you'll see there are only two listed, the others are normal redlight cameras. On Holes Bay Road, which is reasonable to expect as it can be a bit of a tempting racetrack.
We do, of course, have these two on our database, RedSpeed 8985 and 28625.
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Deleted - double post due to finger-trouble! 
Last edited by Andy_P on Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:10 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Andy_P
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:48 am Post subject: |
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As far as I know, they can't use the original "like Gatso but taller and thinner" redlight cameras for speeding too, they need to be replaced by one of the newer digital types.
Not these:
...but these:
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goodstone
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| Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| GerryC wrote: | | These are quite common throughout the country. On the database from here they are labelled "Redspeed" and are in the gatso category based on the speed limit for passing through on green. |
Perhaps a suggestion GPSWORLD should do a seperate warning for REDSPEED cameras on the database so at least i can then do a seperate alert for them. I know the laws just changed about monitrons doing both speed/redlight. My job is driving and i see these monitron cameras at red lights but they are indicated on database as speed cameras when infact there are no measurement markings at lights.
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DennisN
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Quote from Dorset Safety Camera Partnership website... | Quote: | | drivers will notice that there are now secondary check lines on the road at applicable junctions. |
So if they don't have the white road markings running through the junction as with all Gatsos, they're not speed cameras, just Redlights.
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MaFt
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:26 am Post subject: |
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| goodstone wrote: | | GerryC wrote: | | These are quite common throughout the country. On the database from here they are labelled "Redspeed" and are in the gatso category based on the speed limit for passing through on green. |
Perhaps a suggestion GPSWORLD should do a seperate warning for REDSPEED cameras on the database so at least i can then do a seperate alert for them. I know the laws just changed about monitrons doing both speed/redlight. My job is driving and i see these monitron cameras at red lights but they are indicated on database as speed cameras when infact there are no measurement markings at lights.
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in which case, please submit a change request to redlight.
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Andy_P
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| goodstone wrote: |
Perhaps a suggestion GPSWORLD should do a seperate warning for REDSPEED cameras on the database so at least i can then do a seperate alert for them.
Ant |
That would require another SEVEN categories (20-70 mph and TBC), and wouldn't give any extra benefits as far as I can see.
The way it should be working is that if it is a redspeed camera, you get notified as if it was a Gatso - with the correct speed limit indicated.
And if it is a simple redlight camera, you get the normal redlight cam. warnings.
If you really want to split them all out into separate categories, you can always use POIEdit to do it yourself. |
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MaFt
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: |
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| Andy_P wrote: | | goodstone wrote: |
Perhaps a suggestion GPSWORLD should do a seperate warning for REDSPEED cameras on the database so at least i can then do a seperate alert for them.
Ant |
That would require another SEVEN categories (20-70 mph and TBC) |
7 for uk (20 30 40 50 60 70 TBC)
14 for eu (20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 110 120 130 TBC)
14 for usa (20 25 30 35 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 TBC)
so potentially 35 extra files
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Andy_P
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| Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| MaFt wrote: |
7 for uk
14 for eu
14 for usa
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