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RobBrady Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:59 am Post subject: Swindon Scraps Fixed Speed Cameras |
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Despite Wiltshire Police's support of speed cameras, Swindon's five fixed speed cameras will be switched off from today.
Referring to the continued use of mobile speed cameras in the area, Deputy Chief Constable of Wiltshire Police David Ainsworth was quoted by the BBC as saying: "Cameras are an effective means to help achieve a reduction in deaths and injuries and, as such, are an invaluable part of our casualty reduction strategy and they will continue to be used."
The Conservative borough council cite expense as the reason, saying the maintenance cost of £320,000 a year is too much when only a small proportion of the revenue generated by the cameras is returned by central government.
Swindon is the first English local authority to scrap cameras.
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Brownie1990 Lifetime Member
Joined: Feb 02, 2009 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 1:00 pm Post subject: mobile |
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Still using mobiles, they're the real ones that catch people.
Nothing special getting rid of the fixed, easy to see, and where people definitely know where they will be, cameras. |
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mostdom Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jul 10, 2006 Posts: 1964 Location: Surrey, UK.
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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But the article says switched off and not taken down. This makes me think they will leave them up for the duration, and untill the credit crunch improves and just turn them on again.
So you can put a price on road safty! _________________ Dom
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RobBrady Frequent Visitor
Joined: Jul 21, 2004 Posts: 2718 Location: Chelmsford, UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed, switched off, not taken down, but just covered up. It'll be interesting to see if they do take them down, but of course removal will cost money, so it's likely that they'll remain in situ.
You never know, they might need them again in the future when the power shifts in the council _________________ Robert Brady |
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navver Regular Visitor
Joined: Dec 12, 2005 Posts: 111 Location: Chipping Sodbury
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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So what does the government do with the revenue it doesn't return? Does it spend it on road safety or is it another tax.
Why does it cost £64,000 per year per camera for maintenance? What does this cover.
But good luck to Swindon, nice to see common sense prevailing at last.
Lets just hope everyone drives carefully in Swindon over the next few years to get the accident rate down, then maybe other councils will follow suit. |
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253 Lifetime Member
Joined: Mar 05, 2007 Posts: 1058 Location: The green bit between the M40, M4 and M25.
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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navver wrote: |
Why does it cost £64,000 per year per camera for maintenance? What does this cover.
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I suspect it's like everything else that gets 'outsourced', The bid comes in as the lowest price "We can fit if for £1000, that 75% cheaper than anyone else." "And oh, by the way, it will cost you £64,000 per year to service it"
That's how they make their money.
My work has just paid Capgemini (or whatever) £1400 for a Dull computer that you can buy to order for £600. The 'extra' is for the privilege of having them come out and load a new version of Norton every year. _________________ Triumph Tbird 1700. And now a Bonnie T100. |
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BigPerk Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Sounds like your work is similar to what mine was. And taxpayers wonder why public spending goes through the roof, and projects fail, or succeed but are massively over budget! _________________ David
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DennisN Tired Old Man
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 14902 Location: Keynsham
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:36 am Post subject: |
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ITV (local) news presenter said they are bagged (and showed them bagged) and added that they would be dismantled in the next couple of months.
By the way, he said "four" and for the life of me I can only find three inside Swindon on my database. There are two more almost outside police HQ on the A420, but I don't know if these are affected by Swindon Town's decision - I have my doubts. _________________ Dennis
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culzean Occasional Visitor
Joined: Aug 04, 2006 Posts: 54
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:59 am Post subject: |
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How much more 'revenue' does our fat, wasteful central government need?
The reason our council tax was shooting up at 5 to 6 times the 'official rate of inflation' from the late 90's until just a couple of years ago was that central government was deliberately starving local authorities of funds and forcing them to get more revenue locally - notice how council tax rises were lower just before elections?
Just adds to the general feeling that 'safety cameras' were just revenue raisers, and were erected in the most 'lucrative' spots, nothing to do with safety at all - how cynical. |
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navver Regular Visitor
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Despite Wiltshire Police's support of speed cameras, Swindon's five fixed speed cameras will be switched off from today.
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Dennis, I'm sorry but he said five cameras on my copy not four. |
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DennisN Tired Old Man
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:11 am Post subject: |
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navver wrote: | Quote: | Despite Wiltshire Police's support of speed cameras, Swindon's five fixed speed cameras will be switched off from today.
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Dennis, I'm sorry but he said five cameras on my copy not four. |
The "he" to whom I referred was the TV presenter, not Rob. Sadly, today I was unable to call round at the A420 to check the pair near the police HQ as I was far too late coming home from a 6 hour delivery job to Chelmsford which took 11 hours, thanks to all the weekend drivers. When will they learn to stop clogging up the roads on Saturdays? _________________ Dennis
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gem Regular Visitor
Joined: Feb 06, 2004 Posts: 90 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 12:30 am Post subject: Re: Swindon Scraps Fixed Speed Cameras |
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News Team wrote: | £320,000 a year is too much when only a small proportion of the revenue generated by the cameras is returned by central government.
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This is terrible news! Let's hang on a minute, these cameras are there to save lives and prevent accidents...yawn yawn.....
There are not there to make money....!
So here is proof, conclusive in the Swindon area, that cameras are only there to make profits.
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psyskiesman Lifetime Member
Joined: Jun 22, 2004 Posts: 322 Location: Swindon, Wiltshire
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject: cameras on A420 |
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Hi, as a Swindonian I travel the A420 regularly, and can confirm the two cameras near Police HQ have been covered over. |
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DennisN Tired Old Man
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: cameras on A420 |
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psyskiesman wrote: | Hi, as a Swindonian I travel the A420 regularly, and can confirm the two cameras near Police HQ have been covered over. |
Is it still Swindon there, not Wilts or Oxon? There are other cameras a little further towards Oxford - have they been left operating or covered? _________________ Dennis
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psyskiesman Lifetime Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 9:03 am Post subject: |
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Only the two near police hq have been covered, all others are still operational. |
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