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shinydoc Lifetime Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:40 pm Post subject: Re: Mine's gone now. |
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citron wrote: | OH DEAR,
I wish I had read this a few days ago, Switched mine on last night, it couldnt find sattellites, then it did an Auto update then it went as Dead as a DoDo. Rung Garmin this morning and they gave me a return number, they say it will take 10 working days to replace. That doesn't help me as I am going abroad next Thursday. Guess I'll have to find my old Street Pilot III and remember how that worked At least I have all my favorit POI's backed up and can load them onto that even if the maps are 5 years old!
I think Garmin should consider giving us all a new 800 series model as a relacement/ compensation as that seems to be fault free. Any one agree? What are the chances????? Pigs might fly as they say !! |
See my post above, all it not completely happy on the 8xx front! I use to be a Garmin fan without a problem AT ALL with my street Pilot 2610, but now they suck. Too interested in bringing loads of features to the market without thorough testing, just to keep up with the competition - stick to what you are good at Garmin, Satellite Navigation!
What I liked about my 2610 was the slider bar preferences on the Navigation for A, B, Motorway roads, rather than just fastest and quickest. Garmin say it's not possible to do it anymore, yeah right, what do you think...! |
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dhn Frequent Visitor
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Joined: Oct 08, 2007 Posts: 2544 Location: Toronto CANADA
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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If you read the last few pages of the link I provided on page one of this thread, you'll see a solution that takes 5 minutes and a #5 torq screwdriver. (No need to return your unit). _________________ David |
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Galapagos Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:41 pm Post subject: 7x5 Garmin |
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Had email from Garmin at 2100 saying there was a mandatory update to fix the problem for those who can switch on. |
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PaulB2005 Pocket GPS Moderator
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Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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A guide for resetting bricked units has been posted here, if you wish to go down that route. |
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gatorguy6996 Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Nice work too Paul. Excellent pics are a big help. _________________ Garmin 1695 / 255 / 760 w/MSN - Droid w/Google nav + Navigon - Navigon 8100T - Dakota10 - GPSMap76C - GeoMate Jr. |
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citron Lifetime Member
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Paul and DHN but mine was on its way back to Garmin before
I discovered that the fault was not confined to my mine !!!!
Ron |
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PeterB Regular Visitor
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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For me this is the last straw after a long series of teething problems.
Mine is on its way to Amazon for a promised refund.
The one thing we do need in a GPS is reliability!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The way that Garmin are treating the issue i.e. describing it as a 'mandatory update' rather than admiting to a software failure demonstrates their real attitude to customer service!!! |
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xtraseller Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: Garmin |
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Posted my bricked Nuvi back on Thursday, Garmin received it Friday, I received my same unit back in working order 9am Monday morning - so, all things considered, couldn't be happier with their service when something goes wrong - as it does for us all from time to time! |
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xtraseller Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject: Update |
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And my 3.60 unit software updated again from the Garmin Dashboard this evening (yesterday it said it was up to date). Unit software remains at 3.60, so don't know changes that were made today |
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gatorguy6996 Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:33 am Post subject: |
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PeterB wrote: |
The way that Garmin are treating the issue i.e. describing it as a 'mandatory update' rather than admiting to a software failure demonstrates their real attitude to customer service!!! |
How would you rather they described it?
30 hours to roll out a fix was pretty response to the problem IMO. _________________ Garmin 1695 / 255 / 760 w/MSN - Droid w/Google nav + Navigon - Navigon 8100T - Dakota10 - GPSMap76C - GeoMate Jr. |
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PeterB Regular Visitor
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Reply from Garmin took SEVEN (7) days!
'--caused by a problem with the units software version'
No use of word 'SORRY' for the problem OR delay in response!!!
Given 2 options:-
1) fastest: Send by registered post at my expense
2) They will send a courier to collect, advise prefered day!
I must pack securely as Garmin are not responsible for items lost in transit!
From my personal experience, TomTom send packing and prepaid label, and my repair arrived by return
In my view, 'no pain no gain', Garmin are clearly responsible, should pay ALL costs, appologise and compensate, e.g. free map or camera update!!!!!!!! |
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xtraseller Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:25 pm Post subject: Returns |
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Surely offering you a courier to pick up your item is the very best service someone could offer - and as with all services of this kind, repackaging is done by the customer, not the courier as they don't have time to do this kind of thing
Of course it would have been great if this error didn't happen to the 765s but it did, and am sure it has cost Garmin a small fortune
But they have acted both responsibly and quickly in sorting out a solution, and putting right defunct units
But I guess thats not good enough for perfect people in this perfect world |
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PeterB Regular Visitor
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Very sorry that some people STILL accept a less then perfect response from their suppliers!
Having lived and worked in France I do believe that the standards of French restaurants relies on the objective response from their clients and that this reflects on ALL consumer response to bad performance.
I am very pleased to report that AMAZON, champion of consumer power, have agreed to credit the full purchase price plus return postage to my account in recognition of THE PRODUCT FAILURE of my Nuvi 765T.even after 3 months use!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Far from being perfect myself I still demand that products shall conform to that basic consumer right ' suitable for purpose'!
PLEASE do not accept any 'fob off' from so called 'market leaders'
I was with Pocket GPS in the very early days and believe that we can have a significant influence on supplier performance.
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xtraseller Frequent Visitor
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: Angry Man |
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Its not a case of being "fobbed off", but it more a case of some ignoring the facts
Garmins product failed - a major annoyance for their customers, knocking our confidence in an otherwise respected GPS company
However their response was to act swiftly and update unaffected units within 24 hours or so with a patch, and return other returned units quickly
I use my GPS units every day with my job, so my unit going back resulted in me using my Navman S100 and TomTom 720 - neither as good an experience as my Garmin 765 with NuMaps
So I was as disappointed as anyway with the Garmin fault - I just respect their actions which were all you could ask, and pleased to ditch both the Navman and TomTom and get back to using the Garmin
Well done Amazon for refunding you money - I guess you've a right to it, and I'm not arguing that point. But most of us just want our faithful and otherwise reliable nuvi back, and quickly. Garmin surpassed my expectations with that
So take your money and run angry man, you obviously didn't like you Garmin anyway, so it was a good excuse to get a refund. Well done you |
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Goldmaxx Occasional Visitor
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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I have to say that I am extremely pleased with the customer service of Garmin Europe, yes the unit went down but, they received my 765T on Monday AM and had it back in my hands repaired this morning (Thursday). Considering the volume of returns they will have had I consider this service to be exemplary by any standards. Total cost to me was £7.50 because I chose to return the unit by guaranteed next day delivery. A small price to pay for having my unit back so quickly. The moaning minnies will always find something to complain about but I for one applaud Garmin Europe on such a fine service. |
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