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Tartdog
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:01 pm    Post subject: Newbie advice prior to purchasing Reply with quote

Hi,
Looking to buy first ever sat nav and looking on the Navman site a factory repacked S70 (£69.00).The unit is shown having tele atlas map data 2007.4. How is this number worked out April 2007??,also the S series map update dvd western europe shows 2007.10 maps costing £69.95 (dearer than the repacked sat nav S70 itself).I take it that the 2007.4 maps are now out of date?,any advice be grateful,new to all of this.Thanks.Tartdog.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forums Tartdog.

This is always a difficult one to answer. Everyone has their favourites.

As you say the map data is old, but the price reflects this.

If you purchased say a TomTom or even Garmin unit you will get a latest map guarantee. I appreciate that may not be in budget, but buying a £70 unit then having to spend another £70 to update the map brings you into a different ball court.

I'm not saying buy a TomTom but have a look HERE (opens in a new window).

You will see different tabs for selecting different models and even refurb units.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,Thanks for your welcome and advice I am now going for a Garmin unit,hopefully that should sort me out,once again,thanks.Tartdog.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was about to caution against a Navman but have been beaten to it. A Garmin is a much much better option IMHO.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks also for your input,cheers.Tartdog.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:53 am    Post subject: New S200 Australia Reply with quote

The worst GPS I have purchased!!! Cant adjust the overspeed, as it is set by Navman at 5% above road speed. Cant change Map colours, has an ugly white one yet has the map colours already installed in the files on board. Has bugs in the Alerts such as the accident black spots where they dont alarm in the GO function but does on MAP function. Has a stupid plug for the headphones that attach via the USB connector on the bottom of the Unit but you cannot add the car cable to keep the battery charged so guess what..... The blue tooth function is very poor...... Good things, looks great and the the slide like I Phone front interface is OK once you get used to it. ALan
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
I was about to caution against a Navman but have been beaten to it.

What in particular about Navman don't you like? The comments about the newer products here seem very favourable.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

See my comments here.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
See my comments here.

But your comments here are for the S70 and there for the S90, both older devices. What about their more recent products, like the S100 in the link above?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fixer wrote:
Darren wrote:
See my comments here.

But your comments here are for the S70 and there for the S90, both older devices. What about their more recent products, like the S100 in the link above?

Apart from window dressing the same comments apply. The newer models have a slightly re-jigged user interface and 3D buildings. None of these change the core issues.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: New S200 Australia Reply with quote

Alvet- you seem to be referring to the Spirit devices and not the S70.

In the software you cant on the Spirit (S70 you can)
F:\Program Files\Navman\SmartST_CE\UserData
In here editing the default settings.xml and device settings you can adjust the overspeed
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
Apart from window dressing the same comments apply. The newer models have a slightly re-jigged user interface and 3D buildings. None of these change the core issues.

1. It's dated. I assume you mean the S70 and S90 are older devices, so no longer relevant.
2. It's UI is poor. The UI has been rewritten.
3. It's POI support is poor. Is this the 12,000 POI limit? This doesn't really affect mainstream users.
4. Ongoing support is poor. Agreed.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fixer wrote:
1. It's dated. I assume you mean the S70 and S90 are older devices, so no longer relevant.
2. It's UI is poor. The UI has been rewritten.
3. It's POI support is poor. Is this the 12,000 POI limit? This doesn't really affect mainstream users.
4. Ongoing support is poor. Agreed.

If you don't want my advice then why ask?

The latest models are a refresh, the UI is till poor and is still dated. The 12,000 POI limit would affect you if you wanted to use our speedcam database, if you don't then that is irrelevant but that does not change my opinion of the device.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
the UI is till poor and is still dated.


Dated? How's that?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The user interface is not intuitive, it lacks the ability to display key information, the map colour scheme is poor and cannot be changed, it is slow, prone to random crashes (Spirit) and ongoing support and updates will based on previous models be poor or non-existent.

I have no beef with Navman or Mio, my first ever Satnav was a Navman but when someone asks for an opinion of a device compared to all the others available then I am bound to give it!

For those that like it, great. But when compared with other devices that are available they are bot in my opinion worthy of consideration.
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