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welshgasman
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: Cameras not being warned Reply with quote

Ok,

I went past a Gatso located in Glanmor Rd, Swansea, which has been there for several years, and expected a warning on my Garmin i3, but I did not get any warning.

I have had this repeated whilst travelling from Hitchin to Gloucester a few weeks back, passing several Gatsos (fortunately easily visible) and no warning.

What do I need to do to get a warning on all cameras?, as some are reported.


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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where you over the speed limit at the time?
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Don't have a garmin afraid. But have had similar on my TT720 (using PGPSW cameras). Usually happens after I have loaded the update. Thinking here of the 50mph camera at the Polish War memorial on the A40, and again going up through Trealaw and Tonypandy, a couple of fixed 30s don't warn.
I have sorted it on my TT by doing a soft reset, no idea what causes it.

Don't know if this will work on a Garmin.
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe I was a little over approaching the camera, but slowed to under because of it.

I'll try again in a few days and see what happens.

PaulB2005 wrote:
Where you over the speed limit at the time?
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i recall correctly the i3 didn't alert by default unless you were over the speed limit approaching the camera.
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GATSO:2078@30, Heading:0, Single Direction

It could be that no-one has given this camera a 'heading' and it is still located 'off road' where the camera may be - but not on the point of 'capture'.

I thought that the rule was to put the icon on the 'point of capture' not on overhead bridges, in the layby and 'off-road' and only on the Google Map.

As I'm writing this I just realized I passed this camera this morning and it warned me [Garmin Oregon heading 80 ] - but through personal experience it is on the wrong side of the road. I was doing 26mph on my track!

I will update the position and give it the heading.

On satelite view you can see the camera and road markings!
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PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll wait for the next update and test again then.

Cheers.
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have been conflicting responses to this post. My money is on PaulB2005's answer - the next release won't make any difference; it's the speed at which you approach the camera which is most relevant.
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gatso2078@30 has the following details in my Garmin units:-
Alert Information - Distance .30miles - Speed 30mph.

So as 'welshgasman' has a Garmin and if he loads the database using GarminPOI Loader he should have the proximity warning whatever his speed!

If the only warning you get with a unit is 'overspeed' then the risks are great because in the .3 miles you may well keep your speed below 30mph and just happen to speed up to 35mph in the last 20yds!

I had the visual and audible proximity warning today at this camera but as my unit was not zoomed in, I did not notice it was shown off road and on the wrong carriageway!

Any unit that does not give a proximity warning of a camera, is of limited use.
The constant overspeed warning is a pain, and I remove it, after all you have a visual and audible proximity warning and the icon on the unit is always shown.

There are always comments on the forums of warnings for cameras on the opposite carriageway - this camera is off road and nearer to the wrong carriageway.
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eyeQue wrote:

There are always comments on the forums of warnings for cameras on the opposite carriageway - this camera is off road and nearer to the wrong carriageway.

And too far east by the look of the lines on the road Confused
Looks to me (Gatso2078@30, from the satelite view) that it should be at Centre Latitude: 51.62190 -3.97982 with a heading of 77 degrees (MaFt?)

Edited to correct heading from 100 to 77


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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eyeQue wrote:
So as 'welshgasman' has a Garmin and if he loads the database using GarminPOI Loader he should have the proximity warning whatever his speed!

But as Paul suggests, I also recall that the i3 was an oddity in only alerting if you were in excess of the speed.

It's an old and long since superceded device.
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

M8TJT wrote:

of 100 degrees (MaFt?)


100 degrees?
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darren wrote:
eyeQue wrote:
So as 'welshgasman' has a Garmin and if he loads the database using GarminPOI Loader he should have the proximity warning whatever his speed!

But as Paul suggests, I also recall that the i3 was an oddity in only alerting if you were in excess of the speed.

It's an old and long since superceded device.


Sorry I missed that point. Embarassed

Here are screenshots of the audible and visual Proximity warning at .3 miles and a screenshot showing how much the camera is out of position.
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These were in demo mode.
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eyeQue wrote:
M8TJT wrote:

of 100 degrees (MaFt?)


100 degrees?

OOPS Embarassed Embarassed No 77 degrees. Original post corrected.
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well being out of work, I do not have money to buy a flashy new one, and as my subscription ran out yesterday and I immediately renewed, I would like to be confident that I will be warned.

Let me take a pass by it again over 30 and see what I get.

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eyeQue wrote:
So as 'welshgasman' has a Garmin and if he loads the database using GarminPOI Loader he should have the proximity warning whatever his speed!

But as Paul suggests, I also recall that the i3 was an oddity in only alerting if you were in excess of the speed.

It's an old and long since superceded device.
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