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Joined: Jul 21, 2004 Posts: 2718 Location: Chelmsford, UK
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:09 pm Post subject:
JockTamsonsBairn wrote:
RobBrady wrote:
I've contacted them through their enquiry form to try to set up a phone call for tomorrow.
Rob, I take it you didn't get anywhere with"Find a Toilet."
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Did they want you to spend too many pennies?
Oh yes, very funny
We didn't get that far in the discussions. We also toyed with approaching public bodies for the information, but we decided that we were in such a favourable position with our community that we could produce a much more reliable database than the disparate 'official' databases that are often hopelessly out of date, based on postcodes as opposed to latitude/longitude or have limited volume.
Well hopefully we can! _________________ Robert Brady
Have to admit i think supermarkets, department stores etc should be included (always the posibility we will buy stuff in there shops) and alot of them do have cafes etc in them
things such as railway stations, pay for loos, shopping centers, park and rides (council owned) local public loos, markets and other places like that def should be included
As for Pubs, cafes, macdonalds etc then maybe if they agree but if not then dont incude them.
As for the Iphone im sure they guys and gals that have em would be only to happy to pay for somthing like this esp if its a specific made software for it. maybe even make it avalable (if possible) for nokia maps etc ?
Joined: Apr 16, 2006 Posts: 327 Location: BS20, North Somerset
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:29 pm Post subject:
Unfortunately TT does not show detailed info on a POI but some of the more remote council run loos have limited opening time (dawn to dusk for example). Where do we add this info (in comments?) for those devices that will show the info.
A person could get a bit p'eed off if they have driven 2miles in desperation, omly to find it closed.
Very few loos have a phone number, could this be adapted?
Joined: Feb 01, 2006 Posts: 2543 Location: Rainham, Kent. England.
Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject:
May be a good idea to distinguish between those with and without staff, those with staff may or may not have a charge, also if they are opened seasonally, as in tourist area, and the opening hours of all toilets in database.
e.g. When visiting Torquay twice in the same year, a couple of years back, there were several toilets open, some staffed but others not. Sometime, starting during September, some close earlier than usual and later on closed for winter, when I believe there were only two open. _________________ Formerly known as Lost_Property
And NO that's NOT me in the Avatar.
I've just added the newly-refurbished toilets in my home town (Middlewich). But they won't be any use to anybody if they drive through town at 8pm at night, as the toilets are locked overnight.
Is it worth considering separate categories (daylight hours, 24 hours, free, pay for use) as we have for speed cameras. People could then download a consolidated file, or files split by category.
I know I'd hate to get to a toilet to find it all locked up.
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:56 am Post subject: Category/sub Category?
I think it's a good idea and would like to contribute some POIs. However when I look at the google map/submit page I am unsure of which Category and sub/cat. to use. Can someone advise me please.
Thanks in advance.
As an very Early contributer to this category, I would also like to raise awareness to another Important category for a lot of people that perhaps could do with more support, i.e. Disabled Parking in the Transport section. _________________ Moto G5s Plus, Sygic 17.4.8
It's a pity that there only a VERY few following the Guidelines.
It's bad enough having the workload increased x-fold, but also having to put the Title and Details in myself is a task too much. Please take note of the last paragraph of Section 1.
Any that are received after today are likely to be Rejected immediately. _________________ Richard
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But think would be a good idea to clarify what would be acceptable because where i live there are Park and rides with loos in then there's the likes of BHS, Supermarkets and rail stations, as well as shopping centres all seem to have them there now.
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This is up for community discussion, hopefully we'll get lots of opinions as to what should be in and what shouldn't and we'll derive our eventual decision from that. What do you think should be included?
I'm not sure the likes of McDonald's would be too pleased if they were listed as public toilets, but department stores may be a different story.
My opinion would be:
Toilets in pubs, restaurants, cafes would not be included, as they are usually for patrons only and signed as such. It's also a bit obvious when you troop through straight to the loo. Not that it's stopped me when the need is there
Those in department stores, supermarkets, stations, shopping centres I would consider fair game, as they are rather more public, and you have every right to be there even if you are not buying anything.
Joined: Jul 21, 2004 Posts: 2718 Location: Chelmsford, UK
Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:01 pm Post subject:
aj2052 wrote:
What is the difference between this category and any other Poi category to
warrant a charge ?
The possible size, it could run into many thousands. Also, judging by some of the other posts, it's certainly looks like it's going to be a lot more complicated and time consuming than the other categories!
You may have missed this in the first post?:
robbrady wrote:
Hopefully this project should grow substantially over the next few months, meaning there will be outgoings involved in administering what may become a resource heavy service.
It's a pity that there only a VERY few following the Guidelines.
It's bad enough having the workload increased x-fold, but also having to put the Title and Details in myself is a task too much. Please take note of the last paragraph of Section 1.
Any that are received after today are likely to be Rejected immediately.
Come on guys, help Richard out! Just in case some of you missed the guidelines link I have enlarged the link in the opening post so all new readers should spot it. It now looks like this:
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