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andy-c1 Lifetime Member
Joined: Feb 05, 2005 Posts: 1039 Location: East Sussex
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject: VERY WEIRD ROUTE ??? |
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i have asked for a route from say uckfield to basingstoke ..so it takes me up the a22 which is ok then onto the m25 which is ok ..here's teh weirs bit it makes me take junction 9 TOWARDS LONDON on the A 243 then all the way to kingston upon themes then back down towards the M25 on the M3 and on to basingstoke
this is the 2nd time around this area i have had weird routing the last 1 being burgh heath it made me go past junction 8 take the next junction and back on myself via epsom
I have traffic disabled have the latest software and not the latest maps 7.05 i think it is
any ideas as to why this is ..could it be mapshare doing it _________________ TomTom 5001 |
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LesP2008 Lifetime Member
Joined: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 524 Location: Herts
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, that is wierd.
I know the routes you are talking about and their is just no reason to put you onto the A243.
Perhaps someone made the M25 a no entry with map corrections. |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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Andy, are you using the mapshare option and keeping upto date with changes via TomTom Home? - the reason I ask is that it could well be the cause of this problem, we have seen other major roads closed via this method (A40 in to London, A34 around Newbury to name but two) - to be honest I simply no longer trust it, great idea in theory but very poorly applied in practice. - Mike |
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LesP2008 Lifetime Member
Joined: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 524 Location: Herts
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Mike is it simple to get the maps back to standard. |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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If you have a day one back up then it is very easy, just re-install it - the back up is becoming more and more important these days when experiments need turning off, sure you can delete files etc but the fastest method if to blitz the device and turn the "feature" off - Mike |
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LesP2008 Lifetime Member
Joined: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 524 Location: Herts
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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i think i have back-up on a removeable drive, yes i know mike!! don't berate me.
Otherwise how about just reloading the maps from TT home. |
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andy-c1 Lifetime Member
Joined: Feb 05, 2005 Posts: 1039 Location: East Sussex
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Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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yes i do have a day 1 backup on my backup drive ..maybe when i have some time i will back this map up and retry the day 1 backup and see what happens .. to be honest i have noticed this for a while on the m25 from Sevenoaks to oxted tomtom always avoids that area like the plague ( but it always uses oxted to sevenoaks m25) ,but didn't mind to much as i prefer going the other way to the m23 then up to m25
so maybe it's time to chuck mapshare out the window ,which will be a pity as that's teh main reason why i got the new tomtom 720 _________________ TomTom 5001 |
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andy-c1 Lifetime Member
Joined: Feb 05, 2005 Posts: 1039 Location: East Sussex
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:00 am Post subject: |
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does it drop all the updates if you turn it all off ?? ,spose i should try and find out _________________ TomTom 5001 |
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LesP2008 Lifetime Member
Joined: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 524 Location: Herts
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Ok guys, i just connected my device to Home and clicked the preferences tab, clicked on mapshare and there you are asked if you want to delete your corrections, your own or verified. I take it mine are now gone?.
Don't forget to tap the icon on your device and turn off corrections there. |
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mikealder Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jan 14, 2005 Posts: 19638 Location: Blackpool , Lancs
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:38 am Post subject: |
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I am not too sure anyone has actually asked for the Map Share to be removed, and I guess from the acceptance of the terms and conditions when you accept them on the device they are difficult to switch off or remove without the "sledge hammer" approach of the day one re-install.
Why am I so against this, when it is such a great idea?
Well in principle it is a fantastic concept, but it is poorly implemented, this is a one directional combine harvester for information, the submitted information takes ages to filter through to other users and when it does it is far from trust worthy, irrespective of the trusted source settings you can apply.
It may well aid TT in collation of a decent UK POI database (although anything is better than the pathetic offering supplied on current units). They would better spending their time getting the actual maps right .
As for road alterations I simply don't like this concept, if I want to trust a navigation device to go from A to B for an important meeting I do not want to have the job of prior verification of the route, checking for roads that are blocked etc when they shouldn't be.
The map provider gives (in this case TomTom) quality data, which is then degraded by stupid and ill informed alterations that affect thousands of users - has the penny dropped yet? - "fantastic concept, but it is poorly implemented" It is all down to verification of change, and this is something that simply isn't working.
Maxi might be for me next, shame as TT have a great product but I don't like the downward trend in map detail and quality that has become apparent over the past 6 to 9 months, the map degradation is my main gripe to be honest, but that doesn't let the other issues off the hook - Mike |
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Andy_P Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Jun 04, 2005 Posts: 19991 Location: West and Southwest London
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Whoa!! No need to do all that....
Just untick all the "trust" options (verified by TT, reported by some, reported by many etc.) on the correction preferences page, and the map goes back to "day one". Then you can put the corrections back bit by bit by re-ticking the options.
The M40 block was under the "verified by TomTom" section! |
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GerryC Pocket GPS Moderator
Joined: Mar 01, 2005 Posts: 1513 Location: West Mids
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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I've just done an update and it's sending me on a reasonable route at present (A22 - M23 - M25 - M3). It was the same before the update as well.
I haven't heard of any big howlers recently (since they blamed the BBC for one of the closures) so they do appear to be getting their act together regarding updates. _________________ Gerry
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mike37 Lifetime Member
Joined: Mar 01, 2006 Posts: 82 Location: West Berkshire, UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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Me too - just updated maps using map share and gone on the route A22 - M23 - M25 - M3.
Mike |
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andy-c1 Lifetime Member
Joined: Feb 05, 2005 Posts: 1039 Location: East Sussex
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 2:12 am Post subject: |
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I've unticked tomtom map and had to do a reboot and it all now seems ok .touch wood _________________ TomTom 5001 |
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