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paulwilko
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:19 pm    Post subject: 720 or 720T ? Reply with quote

I see on Handtec they have both, but i was under the impression that Traffic on the T versions does not work in the uk.
Am I right to assume that ??

At Handtec they tell me it does work but not great !!

Any thoughts??

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's about right. The T model wasn't launched in the UK until they were satisfied the new version of the antenna worked OK.

Most people who've got the new one say it is a big improvement on the old one (not difficult!), but it is still a bit flakey in some places. A couple of people say it is no better at all.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TT have just released a new traffic module in the UK so if you do go for RDS make sure you get the new version.

TT RDS uses Classic FM transmitters to carry their data. Where I live on the south coast even a good house mounted aerial has a problem getting Classic FM let alone on a car.

If I drive 15 miles to Brighton Racecourse my TT RDS module gets a signal.

Only plus point is no annual sub.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to clarify, the 'T' versions now being sold in the UK do come with the latest version of the TMC antenna.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thx all

I think i will go for the T version and hope for improvements to it.

My dad has the Navman with the traffic device which uses Classic and i personally think it is useless.
Is the tom tom one the same as that or is it better or worse ?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few questions on the same subject.

Can I buy a 720 now and buy the antenna later and 'upgrade' my 720 to 720T?

If so how much are the antennas to buy seperately?

I was going to try the GPRS TomTom Traffic subscrition via my Orbit XDA.

How much is the subscription for that please? I assume its annual.

Is the 720T TMC via FM RDS free ...for ever?

Thanks for any help.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paulwilko wrote:

My dad has the Navman with the traffic device which uses Classic and i personally think it is useless.
Is the tom tom one the same as that or is it better or worse ?

Cheers

Paul


In what way do you think the Navman one useless? Is it the reception of data or the actual data content? In terms of reception I've generally found the Navman to be better in this regard, up to the latest TomTom module. They are now about equal, IMO.

If it's the actual data content, both use the same data provider through Classic FM, but they might process it differently from each other.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scotstersat wrote:
A few questions on the same subject.

Can I buy a 720 now and buy the antenna later and 'upgrade' my 720 to 720T?

If so how much are the antennas to buy seperately?

I was going to try the GPRS TomTom Traffic subscrition via my Orbit XDA.

How much is the subscription for that please? I assume its annual.

Is the 720T TMC via FM RDS free ...for ever?

Thanks for any help.


Yes, you can buy the TMC module at a later date but the price differential may well be greater than the £30 between the 720 and 720T.

A GPRS Traffic supscription is currently £30 per annum.

The TMC module is subscription free and is allegedly free forever, but will last as long as the agreement with iTIS lasts, I guess.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scotstersat wrote:
A few questions on the same subject.

Can I buy a 720 now and buy the antenna later and 'upgrade' my 720 to 720T?

If so how much are the antennas to buy seperately?

I was going to try the GPRS TomTom Traffic subscrition via my Orbit XDA.

How much is the subscription for that please? I assume its annual.

Is the 720T TMC via FM RDS free ...for ever?

Thanks for any help.


might want to check the orbit works with the 720/T...I have the 910 and orbit, only does hands free, which is now usless due to the upgrade/bluetooth!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scotstersat wrote:
I was going to try the GPRS TomTom Traffic subscrition via my Orbit XDA.
The Orbit doesn't have the required Bluetooth connection installed by default to use the GPRS system correctly with the TomTom PNA, if you are using WM6 on the device (and there is no reason not to - simply upgrade it, if need be this is available from the O2 XDA web site for free).
Once running WM6 you can install This CAB file to put the DUN profile back on the device and use the GPRS connection, if you choose to use the GPRS traffic system (or any other data related options such as buddies, weather etc) - Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow!

This is one helpful forum....

Thanks for all your help.

So - I can use my Orbit...CAB file update required....good...

So - I can update to the TMC FM RDS aerial later...good..

Two last questions then and I'm off to the shops. :-)

One - Where do I find the TMC RDS FM aerial sold as an option please? Its not listed as an option on the TOMTON GO 720 accesories page (suprisingly :-) )

Two - What is the TMC reception like around West london please? M4/A4 area from Chiswick to M25?

...and then up around the M25 to Sheffield ? ...

Ta!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikealder wrote:
scotstersat wrote:
I was going to try the GPRS TomTom Traffic subscrition via my Orbit XDA.
The Orbit doesn't have the required Bluetooth connection installed by default to use the GPRS system correctly with the TomTom PNA, if you are using WM6 on the device (and there is no reason not to - simply upgrade it, if need be this is available from the O2 XDA web site for free).
Once running WM6 you can install This CAB file to put the DUN profile back on the device and use the GPRS connection, if you choose to use the GPRS traffic system (or any other data related options such as buddies, weather etc) - Mike



Well, you learn somthing everyday!! Many thanks for that tip...Not meaning to hijack thread...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use that CAB file on my Artemis which is the same device as the Orbit only the case is a little different, and it works fine.

A quick note, if you have GPRS based traffic it will obtain the information via your mobile phones internet connection, for this you need the DUN profile, also your network provider must have enabled full GPRS conectivity (not just WAP), if you are with O2 watch the cost in use very carefully as their data costs are horrible.

When you plug the RDS-TMC unit in to the nav unit RDS becomes the mode it will use for traffic information, to switch back to GPRS traffic requires you to pull the plug out for the RDS device.

Reception can differ due to the weather, let alone location - I have used mine around Shefield and it has worked great, no idea around the west end of the M25 (I avoid that area if possible). For a supplier I think you are best looking around on the net before contacting them to confirm the receiver is indeed the newer model - Mike
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Navman TMC and TTG 500 Reply with quote

[quote="Tim Buxton"]
paulwilko wrote:

My dad has the Navman with the traffic device which uses Classic and i personally think it is useless.
Is the tom tom one the same as that or is it better or worse ?

Cheers

Paul


Tim, I agree, my Navman is spot on since I returned it to them for a continual crash problem.

I run both units side by side and have found my (Free) Navman F30 to give good accurate traffic updates about 90% of the time here on the south coast. I would seriously consider updating to a 720T in the new year.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Splashed the cash on amazon last night. Went for the 720T which I will trial on the TMC over the next two weeks.

If it is crap I will return it and get the 720 and use GPRS. I have around a 4MB per month data allocation built in to my tarrif. I have the full fat GPRS data account enabled.

Thanks!
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