Membership Subscription Options Change

mikealder · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:55 pm Post subject:

How about a Gatso 30 trial available as a one shot trial download but selectable by region, split the country into 5 bands, this would at least let people see how good the data is for the most prolific fixed camera type in any given area. Once the one shot trial databese has been downloaded a user would have no further access to download further regions other than to subscribe. I don't think the above would be too difficult to implement and it could still access live and upto data locations at no loss to the site.

Offering old data could misslead a potential customer, for the same reason I would not advocate the offer of the Mobile or pMobile locations, fixed cameras are easy to spot and would let someone check out the accuracy in their local area prior to purchase.

Something needs to be done in this area, as the manufacturers supply nav units pre loaded with ''rubbish'' databases, that most of us have tried, short of putting a PGPSW trial installation on the devices in the shops (which I do not see as viable in anyway shape or form) how else is a prospective customer permitted to check out the offering prior to subscription? - Mike

Darren · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject:

I'll discuss as a priority and see if we can do this, I think if it's feasible it would be a great idea for new members.
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gardenshed · Frequent Visitor Joined: Jul 05, 2007 Posts: 466

one other idea to throw in the pot, as the database is split into 3 distinct files already, subscribe to whichever you want single file zoned or consolidated at £8 each, i only use the zoned hence i save, some may use two so they pay double but still save and the very few who want all three pay a fiver more.
this way most casual users get a good deal as do single and double file users and the three file users pay the premium price for the max downloads, you could also refine this to only one download per month for the single file, two per month for double files and unlimited for premium

Skippy · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject:

Guys, I wouldn't fret too much about providing a trial version of the database in any shape or form.

You offer a 25 carat guarantee of the database quality with your offer of free lifetime membership to the first user who submits a new or removed camera. That's a pretty good deal!
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johnboy1967 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Jun 30, 2006 Posts: 18

I am posting from a neutral standpoint as i currently do not subscribe to the forum.I currently run a navigon 6 with poi-warner and poi handler for the speedcam warnings although i am 99% certain i will subscribe to get a better database than i feel i have at the moment.

I have been curious since seeing the opening post regarding the pirated versions being seeded to render them ineffective,if so why do people continue to use the pirated version if it does not work.

The trial version may be a good idea to show the true quality of the database as this may be ironic but somebody using the ineffective pirated version may think that they have a "COPY" of the original database and question the true quality of the genuine database.

mikealder · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:05 pm Post subject:

Darren · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:10 pm Post subject:

DennisN · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject:

lola · Lifetime Member Joined: Aug 31, 2006 Posts: 146

Absolutely - if the trial version of the database was a year old then I would have tried it then come back ro sign up for a year. Perhaps the mods should try it out - the problem with the database is there is no date stamp so folks buying off ebay dont know how old it is.

Darren · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:34 am Post subject:

GPS_fan · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:13 am Post subject:

That's a real problem - people not thinking that they're being conned before they part with their money Twisted Evil

eBay also has a knack of having items listed (new or used) for more than the same item sells for in the high street - but people still bid, get stung and have to pay P&P on top Rolling Eyes

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M8TJT · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:39 am Post subject:

Just my 2p worth on a trial db.
I think that the once only download 'try before you buy' it is a great idea.
But using out of date data is NOT a good idea, as if a user's local gatso camera that has been in place for 3-4 months is not in the db, the user is likely to deduce that the main database is also to this poor standard. Surely, what we are trying to promote is the accuracy and 'up to datedness' of the PGPSW database when compared with the generally more expensive and out of date (so I hear) manufacturers competition. For similar reasons, I don't think that a db full of dummy cams is a good idea either as I guess that most users know how their cam 'detector' works, but just want the best cam database available.
I go along with the suggestion of 30mph cams with a limited geographical area but suspect that this might be a problem for MaFt to produce and correctly identify to the user.
Trev

BigPerk · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:51 am Post subject:

Just another thought, on publicity. I Googled 'safety cameras', 'speed cameras' and 'road cameras'. On the first, PocketGPS comes 3rd in the list; it doesn't appear on the first page with the other two. Google was how I originally came to PGPS. (SpeedcamerasUK comes up on all 3, btw)

Two points - does anyone know how to get PGPS to appear more "up-front" in the other 2 lists (something about popularity ratings, choice of keywords, or such?); and can the 2-line extract on the page be made to say something really positive about the PGPS database (whatever you would like it to)?

Or is it all down to Google?

Sorry to waste peoples' time if this is a no-no.

dsk9 · Occasional Visitor Joined: Mar 02, 2007 Posts: 1

Ignore the negative and (probably deliberately) inflammatory comments Darren. You have my full support as well. You provide a damn good service, and as such I expect to pay for it.

Anyone who thinks £19 per year is too much to help keep a clean licence and save anything up to £600 in fines is just not thinking!

And before anyone thinks I added the extra zero by accident, the "fines" can amount to that much if you take into account the possible loading on your insurance premiums for a period of five years after a speeding offence, especially if you have more than one vehicle driven by several people, and at least one of them has been caught speeding more than once. Insurance companies vary in their approach, and a lot depends on how many speeding convictions you have, but despite the cost of the official fine, the final bill could be a heck of a lot more than sixty quid.

And again, I know the points only stay on your licence for three years, but some insurance companies continue the premium loading for five years. How do they get away with that, when according to the Law you have a clean licence again?

Keep up the good work

Dave

Darren · Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject:

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