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Calomax
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I fully understand your reasons for doing this, and £19 is nothing for anyone using it regularly.
But I'm unhappy personally  as I only drive in the UK for one week per year in the autumn and usually subscribe for a month in September to get the latest update.
The rest of any driving I do outside of Guernsey is in Europe and I get the European database from POI Handler for £2 for a month's subscription. Next year I'll give its UK database a try, although I doubt it's anything like as good as yours.
I know I'm in a very small minority and don't expect you to change anything for me, but I've had my whinge. 
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PaulB2005
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The rest of any driving I do outside of Guernsey is in Europe and I get the European database from POI Handler for £2 for a month's subscription. Next year I'll give its UK database a try, although I doubt it's anything like as good as yours. |
Your £19 a year PGPSW subscription will also get you the European database too. Be the first to submit a new camera and you'll get a free lifetime subscription (once it's been verified)
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Calomax
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:46 am Post subject: |
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I didn't think your European database was very comprehensive. But I haven't looked at it for a couple of years now so perhaps it's improved. I may be back!! 
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PaulB2005
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I didn't think your European database was very comprehensive. |
Its growing but the more people use / contribute to it the better it'll become. |
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Darren
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:53 am Post subject: |
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| Calomax wrote: | | I didn't think your European database was very comprehensive. But I haven't looked at it for a couple of years now so perhaps it's improved. I may be back!! |
It's not yet as good as the UK one but the more reports we get the better it will become and it is improving rapidly.
Of course the bonus is that as a result, at the moment there is a very much greater chance of qualifying for lifetime subscription if you get reporting the continental camera sites!
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Andy_P
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Of course the bonus is that as a result, at the moment there is a very much greater chance of qualifying for lifetime subscription if you get reporting the continental camera sites! |
Maybe that fact needs shouting from the rooftops?  |
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BMW330
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| Andy_P2002 wrote: | | Darren wrote: |
Of course the bonus is that as a result, at the moment there is a very much greater chance of qualifying for lifetime subscription if you get reporting the continental camera sites! |
Maybe that fact needs shouting from the rooftops? |
Indeed, one unfortunate downside to the timing of this subscription change is that it should have co-incided with the recent expanded free membership criteria. Seems many people are not aware how much easier it is now to get free membership. Sure something's been taken away, but something's also been given back, albeit a month ago. |
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03038520
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Fantastic for £19 a year I've just gone from monthly to annual so I'm happy, just a little disappointed as NO new update since the 20th August thats been over a month now. I've never seen it this long since a update, so if i was a monthly subscriber I would be a bit  off. But other than that fantastic website and great FREE POI's so I don't know what people are complaining about?
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Darren
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:48 am Post subject: |
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| 03038520 wrote: | Fantastic for £19 a year I've just gone from monthly to annual so I'm happy, just a little disappointed as NO new update since the 20th August thats been over a month now. I've never seen it this long since a update, so if i was a monthly subscriber I would be a bit  off. But other than that fantastic website and great FREE POI's so I don't know what people are complaining about? |
As punishment for daring to take a holiday MaFt has been burning the midnight oil and a release should be ready later today.
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MaFt
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| 03038520 wrote: | | Fantastic for £19 a year I've just gone from monthly to annual so I'm happy, just a little disappointed as NO new update since the 20th August thats been over a month now. I've never seen it this long since a update, so if i was a monthly subscriber I would be a bit off. But other than that fantastic website and great FREE POI's so I don't know what people are complaining about? |
it'll be ready in about 3 hours! been away for a week and had a MASSIVE back-log to get through!
however, bear in mind that all monthly subscribers will have had at least one download anyway - we never make any promises to do more anyway.
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paulb134
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| I totally agree with you all.£19 for the best camera updates.I notice Ebay seems one of the worst problem sites,hence I have finished them,and paypal are no better.You always end up being the guilty party.I wish to add my loyal support to you all.Many thanks,Paul. |
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GPS_fan
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| Darren wrote: | | Outlander wrote: | Darren,
If you have traced some of these people and banned them why not take them through the legal system or would this not be cost effective. Oh and if I was to get a second Device for the wife would my subscription cover her or would it cost me another £20. |
It would I fear be far too expensive, that's not to say we won't. I have one individual who is very close to becoming our test case  |
I wonder if there might be a legal person within the membership who might be prepared to help with this or at least advise the team and possibly help keep any costs down
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GPS_fan
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| BMW330 wrote: | | Andy_P2002 wrote: | | Darren wrote: |
Of course the bonus is that as a result, at the moment there is a very much greater chance of qualifying for lifetime subscription if you get reporting the continental camera sites! |
Maybe that fact needs shouting from the rooftops? |
Indeed, one unfortunate downside to the timing of this subscription change is that it should have co-incided with the recent expanded free membership criteria. Seems many people are not aware how much easier it is now to get free membership. Sure something's been taken away, but something's also been given back, albeit a month ago. |
The trouble is that some people are so tight that if they qualified for free membership they might be tempted to request a refund for the remainder of their 'paid period'
...yet, the very same people probably eat and drink out all the time without giving a second thought to how much that is costing each time, never mind over the course of a year
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Darren
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| Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| GPS_fan wrote: | | I wonder if there might be a legal person within the membership who might be prepared to help with this or at least advise the team and possibly help keep any costs down |
If there is we'd welcome some guidance on what if anything we ought to be doing to stop those whom we know are sharing the database.
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Darren
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| GPS_fan wrote: | | The trouble is that some people are so tight that if they qualified for free membership they might be tempted to request a refund for the remainder of their 'paid period' |
Oooh like those who subscribed for £2 and then wanted us to mail them a receipt so they could claim it as an expence! After PayPal and the VAT man take their cut if we were to mail out a receipt we'd have nowt left!
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